My first car was an ‘88 thunderbird turbo coupe 5-speed, which was basically a successor to the SVO. They had the same engine, albeit the ‘88 was basically a BIT more powerful with a few tweaks to it’s 2.3 liter intercooled turbocharged 4 cyl.

Actual reporting summaries:

My favorite “i got screwed” experiences:

As a BMW guy who loves the e46.....no. freaking. dice.

He was equating a review headline, which he called out as clickbait and did not attempt to justify, with a commenters username. Because BACKING DOWN IS NOT AN OPTION MoFo!

Ya ever notice how some of the biggest and best content platforms in the world, with decades-long growth, have focused on simplicity, usability, and a consistent look and feel?

“Super Spreader” is not well defined but the most consistent appears to be when one person spreads it to 8 or more others. That is not shown in this study. But then, “Super spreader” is not clearly defined. And it’s been dominated now by media.

I have a personal story behind my vote: In 2003 I bought a 1995 volvo 850 turbo with ~120k miles on it for $3,350. Automatic, sedan, black on black.

I’m not arguing your point, I’m arguing the way it was presented. It was presented as a super spreader event (which their own statistics argue against) and as a huge increase in national incidence (which is not supported by the data). I’m not saying a huge packed rally with nearly half a million people didn’t increase…

Soooo.....let’s talk some statistics, since we are tossing them around here:

I had a 2006 Civic SI and drove it for 110k miles before selling it for 40% of MSRP.

So I own a ‘19 Wrangler Sahara 4-door 6mt and this is awesome, but a few comments:

The challenge is this type of corporate espionage isn’t caught the majority of the time.

Yep, missed this totally. Guess I gotta change my vote...

An S52 Z3 M Couple with 89k miles on it is going for above $20k?

It is a great platform and I think the cooling system is now offered with a variety of much more bulletproof aftermarket solutions to eliminate the “every 100k” symptom.

ND/CP for me. This is not far off the early Z3 M Coupe prices for that type of mileage and there’s a BIG difference between the Z3 vs. Z3M Coupe.

Absolutely - I got the idea from the concept of the $30k 911....you can get a 911 for less than $30k, but one way or another it’s going to be $30k.

My personal criteria for NP under $4k is...

We have a science called epidemiology to help us understand risk and make smart decisions. We seem to have dropped it in favor of raw, unqualified metrics and fear. Here’s an example: