I'm not trying to make anything 'enough.' I'm just trying to find a way back to the original points. I'm really trying to be as honest and kind and open as I can. But, I think derailing is very problematic. It happens a lot when women try to talk about sexism and misogyny. Basically, someone is always trying to turn…

First, I am seeing some of those kinds of comments, yes. Which I am clearly not participating in. I haven't actually made any sweeping generalizations. The homophobic who show up, as they often do, don't take away from the actual point of the article, however, and I'd like to stay on that point.

Except this isn't about that. This isn't about going to a gay club and being treated badly. This is about misogyny and should be discussed. Please stop trying to trivialize it into not being invited to some kind of party. That's really very blind of you, actually. Really, it secures for me that this is about privilege…

I was not joking at all. I was describing the experience I've had, but making a woman do it to a man as an example. No joke.

My disbelief is that women do it more than men do, which was the original poster's point. I tried to be respectful about that disbelief. But, if you say it's common, AGAIN, that sucks and is wrong.

I have. You're lucky. And I'm not just talking about at the straight bar. Let's not kid ourselves.

Yes. That drives me crazy. They are not "your gays." They are men who are your friend, and who happen to be gay. But, that shouldn't be the primary reason for your friendship.

Really? Where did I say that?

They were large. And are thankfully dead now. I have what I think are appropriate feelings about it, and it's not likely I'll be changing my mind and trying to find some to hug. But, you know, um, thanks, I guess, for discussing different rats with me.

This was actually in California. But, yeah, the rats that live here are mostly Norway, too. These were huge rats. At least four were killed by Orkin of that size. These things had been coming in my house. Then, a series of smaller babies were killed.

I lived in a house that had rats. The guy next door was a hoarder. The rats had set up shop in his mound of stuff in his yard. Then, they came over to my house. Even with the cats there, who seemed kind of terrified of them. And for good reason! They were Norway rats. When Orkin came and killed one, it was .... REALLY…

Hmm. If that happens, how awful. But, really? A bunch of straight women come up to you in bars and grab your junk and shake it around and then say, "But, you're gay! What do you care?"

That is completely true, and we need an article to express that.

If people here are saying that, that sucks. But, I'm seeing very little.

Sure! Because women being oppressed is totally imaginary.

Yes. The "my gays" thing has got to go. I have a friend who does that constantly, and it's incredibly annoying.

I must agree. What is up with insulting someone's body parts/their physical selves like that, either way?

Except, gay or straight, a man can walk out the front door of his house and have different privileges. It's disgusting that it might mean, in certain places, he has to be different. That's utterly wrong and has to change. But, even so, men have privileges women don't, often.

haha! EXACTLY. I know I could do that. In fact, I bet mine would look even worse. AND BE DANGEROUS. Like Extreme Furniture. Will it fall on you? Will it stay up?

The bookcase is even better.