Yeah - others have said it but it’s because these cars have depreciated a whole bunch already and that will level off fairly rapidly after the initial drop.

1967/68 Chevy C10

I have a friend who had an electrician install a 220 outlet for charging his Tesla for under $200. He uses the same outlet for charging the batteries up on their travel trailer. It’s not going to be a quick charger, but it tops the batteries off overnight easily.

It would definitely alter the economic models significantly. So much money is made right now through investments built on credit vehicles like credit cards, auto loans, REIT’s, and other consumption-geared investments.

Not sure about that last item. Many ‘blue’ states have pretty high property taxes, insurance rates, and upkeep/utility costs. Thinking about the NE, Pacific Coast, and Minn/Mich/Ill corridors. Texas and Florida have higher property taxes and insurance rates - especially on the Texas coast - but no state income tax.

phhhs - If that’s what it takes, it may not be worth it.

It’s implicit in everything that many are saying on this, but not one of us is promised a ‘tomorrow’. Not to say that we should live completely feckless lives, unconcerned about a retirement, but that if the opportunity presents to do things like travel, hobbies, and time with those around us that we value we MUST…

This is the correct addition.  Bravo.

As a white guy - I can tell you that I know most African Americans have roots in this country much longer than mine. My forebears showed up between 1895 and 1904.

Kansan checking in here - I don’t want anyone to have to shift over to Dodge City.

Those two, with Cle were just so good.  It is awesome to see Van Vleet taking a step forward on such a stage.  Hoping Ron gets the chance and Cle could make it somewhere.  Gotta root for my Shocks where I can!

So....Death Penalty?

She’s already on her way in the literary world:

The US is in the Rugby World Cup this fall - unlike the soccer WC last year. We probably won’t do much, even though we beat Scotland this last year in a friendly.

Let’s start a list of new cars that are the automotive equivalent of a penalty box. Here’s my list:

Paging David Tracy. David Tracy to this post please.

Name for old cars with hidden problems:

Anyone familiar with German Quark?  Sounds very similar to this.

Also -stripped phillips? Try a similar sized Torx bit. If you can press hard enough, it usually works.

Goddam, I can’t stop smiling at this. Bravo!