Woefully short? What is it with this place and the hyperbole?

This feels a lot like Musk’s complaints about bots when he was trying to get out of his hostile takeover of Twitter. Set some impossible standard, then use that as the excuse as for why such-and-such thing will happen. It wasn’t that it was never going to happen, it’s that they couldn’t meet this impossibly high…

I have no idea how that would work or how it would be profitable, but that’s the dream.

I don’t know how it is now with their various electric models, but I worked at a group with a Volkswagen store when the eGolf came out, and they simply refused to sell the car or do the upgrades. Now they did later do the upgrades to add the charging stations for their Porsche store, but the eGolf wasn’t seen as worth…

Yes, it does make sense. Like an old iPhone, sooner or later certain hardware will be obsolete, and no longer accept OTA updates. Plus like the old iPhone, Tesla batteries lose capacity over time. So your 2013 Model S looks dated with its faux grille, the motors are old tech, and has a fraction of the range it had…

The Shelby Lancer. Or any Chrysler Lancer for that matter. Talk about a forgotten car you don’t see anymore. That or a LeBaron of that vintage. Like the Shadow/Sundance, at one time they were everywhere but I can’t imagine more than a handful being in driveable condition between seniors still maintaining them and…

A Howard Stern Wackpacker running for the U.S. Senate as a Republican is Peak GOP.

Really? Like garage-kept pristine? That beats me seeing a mint Gen 2 Intrepid sitting in a driveway.

The challenge with this list was, by the time the 90s came about, the manufacturers had more or less figured out how to use electronics to achieve emissions goals, so horsepower was on its way back. For the most part, performance cars had at least some performance.

Hard pass. I can’t even come up with something pithy. I know Panthers are many people’s kink, but not me. And since a Crown Vic was the only rental car my wife - who never complains about anything - complained and texted to her friends about, I’m a double-double hard pass.

At the risk of aging myself, when I did the Plymouth/AAA troubleshooting contest when I was in high school, the vehicle for the hands-on portion of the competition was the Spirit’s platform mate the Plymouth Acclaim. It was an adequate, post K-Car sedan.

Seriously, go away. Like your diatribe about cold air intakes where you misrepresented my comments to make your point, you’re adding nothing to this discussion.

Go away.

These happen everywhere. I can hear smaller versions of these events almost nightly in my rural Connecticut town. Blame the availability of cheap, off-brand dirtbikes and ATVs as much as anything.

“What’s that rack for?”
“Oh, that’s where you put your sense of self-preservation before you go for a drive.”

Living in an area with pretty extreme income inequality, I see these cars and similar (including a couple K-Cars) almost daily while also seeing more Rivian R1Ts than I can shake a stick at. I even know where there is a Dodge Spirit not too far from me. I still can’t remember the last time I saw a Shadow or a…

Early Shadows (in particular the Shelby CSX variant) could be had with a turbo, but by the time the ES came out the turbo 4 had been replaced by a 141-horsepower Mitsubishi V6. Not as bad as the base 100-horsepower 4, but quite a letdown from the 175-horsepower of the turbo.

The CSX is a neat little late 80s car, and while I haven’t seen one on the road in the long time either, like the GLH/GLH-S they have a following. The post-Shelby Shadows and Sundances were underwhelming, and a 141-horsepower V6 is underwhelming after the turbo 4s.

The four different responses to my one post that are variations of the same reply is why I deleted your comment.

I still see many different economy and economy performance cars of this vintage in my area, either in old beater or in kept and loved form. I haven’t seen a Shadow/Duster in at least 15 years.