Jenn3
jenn3
11/14/19
7:37 PM
2

I’d be a lot more sympathetic to including the quote if it had some kind of more detailed critique, like, ‘I didn’t want them to include books by Sarah Dessen because I don’t think they’re representative of ...’ whatever. I just don’t think there’s any way to spin ‘they’re fine for teenage girls’ as anything but dismis Read more

11/14/19
3:48 PM
3

Hey, LuckyMc44, I’ve been turning this over in my mind, and you’re right. I missed the point. The idea that stories about teen girls coming of age aren’t for everybody IS sexist. Whatever discussion and differences of opinion there might be about the relative merits of YA books for non-YA audiences is a separate issue Read more

11/14/19
3:27 PM
3

It’s not just the fact that she criticizes Dessen’s writing, it’s the fact that she uses “fine for teenage girls” as an insult. The clear implication is that teen girls deserve a lesser standard of literature. It’s not a huge leap from that statement to internalized misogyny. 

11/14/19
11:28 AM
8

I agree that “It’s fine for teen girls” smacks distinctly of internalized misogyny. Whether or not that was an unfortunate word choice on her part isn’t for me to say. At best it was pointlessly gendered. Read more

11/14/19
11:03 AM
3

she pretty specifically called out Dessen, basically mocking it as being good enough for teen girls (those dumb teen girls lolol) and not anyone else. fuck her and her attitude. 

11/14/19
11:00 AM
8

If the argument is that she (and they) thought it was important because it’s a pervasive issue that women’s writing isn’t taken seriously enough (which might be a fair point), surely there’s a bigger example of that discrimination than a common read book at a college smaller than many high schools in one of the least Read more

11/14/19
10:59 AM
4

she chose to make her criticism public; there’s no problem with the target or other people responding to it. 

11/13/19
9:33 PM
4

Ah the worst of the worst of humanity: teenage girls and anything aimed at them. Inferior in any way imaginable and no intelligent adult would want anything to do with that. Do i need to point of the sparkling misogyny? Do i really?

11/13/19
9:05 PM
13

Well, luckily, that’s not my take! I don’t think Sarah Dessen books should be a Common Read, and neither does Sarah Dessen.
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11/13/19
6:14 PM
12

It’s not about them not “liking” her work, though. It’s about them blocking her work from being selected for a reading program solely because “it’s fine for teen girls,” but apparently not anybody else.

11/13/19
5:20 PM
10

1) young teens aren’t children, and 2) other YA books were there; this person just had a weird bug about Dessen specifically. 

11/13/19
5:19 PM
7

YA is currently studied at the college level and receives a lot of scholarly attention. It is a myth that a book needs to be challenging to be intellectually engaging and culturally meaningful. She has internalized and is trying to perpetuate a tradition of pretentious literary gatekeeping. I am not here for it. Read more

11/13/19
4:36 PM
11

As a public library employee, let me say, people read what they read. I’ve had 12 year olds reading political allegory and grown ass men checking out tween dystopia. And it’s all fine, absolutely no one should be shamed for what they read. And absolutely no one should go out of their way to stop someone else from Read more

11/13/19
4:00 PM
15

Yeah, but at least they don’t quote from Birth of a Nation. This guy is pulling straight from the Nazi playbook. 

11/13/19
3:55 PM
39

Yeah, idk, I’m kind of annoyed at everyone in this situation. Like, on the one hand, if you’re a public figure, you’ve got to deal with some criticism. On the other hand, I’m also puzzled as to why that college student was so afraid that one of Sarah Dessen’s books would get picked? Like, I feel like most people would Read more

11/13/19
3:45 PM
59

The same way that there are gay republicans? You can’t fix that level of self-hatred.