Heavy running gear and aero.

Those people should buy something else. As it stands, the Wrangler seems to sell fine without additional compromises to increase mileage.

Me too:

I want to join the party!

That picture is just plain beautiful!

Just for you David, what “old fashion” traction control looked like

Needs more lift.

Can I get in on this?

That’s awesome!! Love flexing ‘yotas!

I’ll join that party:

That looks like Rausch Creek. 

Amen, brother!

Wait a minute, is that Toyota lifting its leg? No Toyota! Bad Toyota!

Good lord that’s beautiful.

There are compromises that need to be made to allow the flexibility of suspension that the Jeep offers. The soft springs rates, low lateral stiffness in the suspension, and hilariously bad payload ratings (at least on the JK) dictate a low towing capacity. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to tow more than 3500 lbs with one.…

This is starting to feel like a trap.

Yep. It’s BAD. And since it’s normally a total drop-off to the side, you’d have to actually build a mountain to widen the road. Or rebuild from scratch... so... yeah, no RWD around here in the winter. We have literally shut down all interstate commerce for a week before due to a crash.

There are plenty of places in the world where a 5 series would stick out like a sore thumb.

Pro tip 2: Don’t get old. Those mildly annoying hangovers at 23 become a death sentence at 33.

I always liked the Testarossa... and have a soft spot for the Ferrari 355.