Yes, but smoke won’t stop a millimeter wave seeker or if they have some sort of last-known-position guidance. It’s still better to hard-kill the ATGM.

I pity the fools who were on the receiving end of that. You’d have to scrap their mincemeat off the ground with a shovel.

Bullshit. Everyone knows that’s a beryllium sphere.

People forget how powerful even small bombs can be. Most car bombs are only about 200-300LB of crappy explosive and they can take down a whole block of buildings.

The idea that MANPADs are a special threat is nonsense. The Syrian groups have hundreds of TOW missiles. These can just as easily be smuggled into Europe to blow up any plane on take-off or landing. Defeating Assad is more important. They can either dole out the MANPADs to a select group in controlled quantities or…

Start by pulling China’s favorite nation status. That’ll focus some minds.

True dat’, a ship that size needs a triplet screw...

Build 5,000 of those f—king things; F-22 and F-22E Strike variant.

If it went back to the warehouse then they probably didn’t mess with it. The Chinese and Russians don’t need to open it up, they’ve already hacked all the specs from Lockheed....queue F-35...

Someone start an egg timer. I wouldn’t be surprised if after this, that’s the amount of time it will take for the Turks and Saudis to start passing MANPADs around in Syria.

If Russia goes to war with any peer country, it will be the absolute end of Russia in its current form. The world will lock them out of the global economy for the next hundred years. Peer countries don’t go to war with each other. Saudi and Turkey are important countries with significant economic and political…

No need for a car bomb. The Russians apparently just lost a bunch of generals to a TOW missile. There’s a video of it. The Russian media downplayed it, it seems so they clearly don’t want to get involved further.

I just looked at the Turkish order of battle and I’m surprised they only have F-16s — although it smart as well, very efficient logistically. They really need to get themselves some F-15s at the very least.

Russia would lose before they even started. Turkey is not some backwater country. It would take major preparations to engage Turkey, which would be spotted far in advance. Russia would get sanctioned to shit from the world economy before it even blinked.

On the contrary, the Russians would lose massively. They’d set their country back 50 years. They have some good equipment, but only in small quantities. Their military is still vastly outdated and mostly conscript. They suck at logistics. They lack the economic depth and capability to prosecute a war against a modern…

Sixth Gen is needed to get past the S-400 and S-500. As it is, the Russians would own our ass in a fight — they may not win long-term, but they would exact a very heavy toll. The US has become way to complacent in the organic firepower department. They bet the farm on airpower and now the S-400 and soon S-500 can…

Nobody else is doing flying wings, and it’s key to defeating LF radars for stealth. Seems like an edge the US will enjoy for a long while.

So it’s 26 Russian vs 27 NATO, not including the US. The UK and French SSNs are effective. They’ll definitely take out a few Russian SSNs before they’re taken out. Those AIP boats from Germany, Holland and Norway may put up a fight, who knows.

Does NATO even have seven brigades they can scrape together between the lot of them without the US? Ya, I think not.

Ok. Let’s re-do this Elephant Walk in a few years with 500 F-22 Rev.Bs.