That is basically Kia’s style. The Stinger looks like a car from GTA V transported to the real world.

Vehicle model names want to evoke a certain response. “Telluride” for a big chunky wagon is genius. It works on more than one level.

“It’s bad. It’s really bad.” Is it really, that bad? Seems to be a lot of miles for the majority of customers and I’m gonna guess the 100+ year old company will be okay. I call hyperbole.

Compared to what? I view them as superior vehicles in every area but sports car like handling and fuel economy. They are Great highway cruisers, easily soak up bumps and imperfect road surfaces, comfortable seats with plenty of room for people , large storage area for your stuff and very advanced 4x4 systems that…

The facelift looks properly good. Like, best-looking-Ford-SUV-in-awhile good.

Douche bag luxury and sports car owners are in a class by themselves. Truck owners are saints compared to those pricks who should be arrested and deported to Easter Island to live out the remainder of their days.  

I can fit both my trucks side by side without spilling over. I was actually siting in my Raptor one day pairing a new phone when a lady in a honda fit pulled up next to me and parked at an angle that i could not open my drivers door to get out. I have seen more terrible parking from small car owners than truck owners…

“Built tougher” lol

How’d you manage to get a slow and thirsty bmw?

Why do people even buy trucks? Why are they so popular? They are mediocre at best.

Mediocre at what? They are probably the most usable vehicles for sale today, that’s why they are popular and maintain high resale regardless of gas prices.

For those of us who have to park “regular” cars, trucks are horrible. They are wide and take up all, or spill into, other parking spaces. They are also long, so they spill into the lanes of said parking lots.

The box on the retractable cover that I’ve used is probably about 4" tall x 4" deep, and runs the width of the cab. If you need to haul something that takes up 100% of your bed length and is tall, like an ATV, it would certainly get in the way, but for most things (ie boards, ladders and tools) you still have the full…

Try putting a few yards of dirt in the back of a camry and see how well that works for you.

Luggage fits in the bed with the cover closed, though. Beds are huge. Plus with the cover even cracked up an inch or two, everything in there will still be soaked due to funky aerodynamic airflow. I see what you were getting at, though.

My truck takes up most of a parking space, but that’s what spaces are designed for. I can park in 1 space in my truck, you should be able to as well in a regular car.

So you hate truck owners simply because of the space they take in parking lots? I’ve seen tons of people who take up way more space than a truck by parking at an angle in a straight parking space but I just find a different spot.

What’s wrong with the tri-folds?  Seems like all the functionality of the roll up with way less of a tedium/more security.

I have a rollup cover on mine. I roll it up when I haul things like my ATV, dirt, rocks, etc and roll it down when I want to keep my bicycle out of the rain or putting luggage in the back. Why does everyone hate on truck owners so much? If you drive a Mustang slowly are you an idiot because you’re not using it for…

I had the tri-fold. It could fold up and lean up against the cab of the truck providing full bed access, or unfold and close in and LOCK the contents of the bed keeping all my tools safe. In other words I did not need to empty the bed of my truck every day.