I just looked at your post history and saw you’re one of those people who just love to argue. Go away. I can’t stand your type, especially when you’re so, so wrong.

Apples to oranges, Ph.D. I’m glad you picked what you thought was the same class of car, American-centric, non-global “scientist.” Stick with that. Your business skills suck.

Try again. I don’t care about your engineering background. You are paid to do your job. All of your examples are high volume cars in their base form. For being so smart, you really aren’t. As a scientist myself, that doesn’t make you a good businessperson. You are not. You are also in the minority on this discussion.

(R&D + tooling + production)/volume

Ha! Look around!

This is the point I’m trying to make! Thanks for saying it much better than I did. Amost nobody on this site would buy this car new for the price it would take to put in a turbocharged engine option. People think it’s “just the price of the turbocharging parts,” but don’t realize how much more cost goes into this. Now…

No it wouldn’t. Mine stickered for 31k. The cost of R&D, parts and tooling would push this low production vehicle close to 40k. Everyone always thinks of the price of the parts, but never all the other things that go along with designing and releasing a car. The Impreza is a high volume seller worldwide so the costs…

You guys wouldn’t buy it for 40k then. The R&D, and extra cost for tooling a low-production car would push it that high. You wouldn’t buy it.

At $45k almost none of you on this site clamoring for a turbocharged one of these would buy one brand new. You get what you pay for, and that’s a specialized, LIGHT, low-production coupe for what most can buy for under 30k.

This is one of the best comments I’ve seen on this site in years. Why are you greyed out!?

This is a great, great point.

Your comment is true and fantastic! Man, many people really are simpletons, aren’t they?

Look up their dimensions. You’d be surprised.

I was refraining about using Lexus and Europe in the same sentence in my original post because you’re right. I’m talking about things like the Range Rover Evoque, X3 and 1, 3 series, C-Class, smaller Alfas.... They all don’t even fit in the lanes of many of the European roads that aren’t main arteries!

I guess you’re right. More metal, safer passengers?

I’m not going to look it up, but I would gather the new one is wider, heavier and longer than what you have in that picture.

Exactly. How can people run ANY of this stuff in Europe or smaller countries!? I get that Americans are turning into a bunch of obese zombies, but does that mean we have to keep making cars to keep up with their waistlines? When traveling, it’s now incredibly easy to pick out Americans around the world.

Even longer and wider. Jesus. I just rented a 2018 Mustang Convertible yesterday and was stunned at what a fat pig the thing was. When will the manufacturers stop with this model bloat, including SUVs?

I believe these Eaton TVS models are engineered to be quiet, unlike the previous models. Either way, I’m probably not going to put a CAI in a Range Rover. I just thought they could engineer it with a little sound when you get on it.

You’re not much of a R&D cost analyst, are you?