Body shop be like: that's 30k of damage, see the bumper had to be replaced (10k), and we painted the fender.

I refuse to believe anyone is actually paying the 15k markup my dealer has on Tellurides. But then again my cousin bought a Rav4 (Amusingly it has less interior space than my Optima despite being 20 inches taller, no joke rofl) with 6k markup so idk.

We went though rocketauto who referred the offer to Vroom so it ended up being the same folks you guys used. I guess people just really like ordering a car from their living room and avoiding the dealerships right now. My cousin bought a Rav 4 last month and spent 6 hours haggling them down from 10k over markup to…

I posted a picture of a 15k markup from my Kia dealership on the last article about the Mach-E, so if they’re not topping 15k markup yet Kia is still on another level. This whole year is just weird with prices though - my wife just sold her 3 year old, 45k mile Civic for $1200 less than she bought it. We’re going to…

“allowing dealers to offer deals below MSRP”

I loved the Volt.  I think it was the best of both the electric and the gas world's and was sad they got rid of it.

I swear their price has gone up from people assuming this will be true.  I keep checking for a cheap commuter and nope, still expensive

These aren’t the production lights - or at least they shouldn’t be. Their prototypes had light bars that wrapped around the tailgate.

Nope you’re right - they made one Grey. Probably for promo purposes. Looks so much better than the white ones though.

It’s Sony though-it would be like 150k for no apparent reason.

Yep. Used to ask why my parents wouldn't buy an electric car since they commute 50-100 miles a day. Turns out they'd get practically nothing from these credits but I would get the full value. If they're not flat rebates they just benefit the people who don't need it.

Great now dealers can put a 10k plus markup on it, like this Telluride with a 15k markup:

I wouldn't mind picking one up in a few years as a work commute car. Wouldn't pay more than 10k for it though.

Especially in CA with AC and radio blasting in traffic. I'm really not sure what they were thinking here.

That’s how Tesla swaps tend to work, and they’re way more viable than this drop in currently is for that reason.

Yeah I didn’t check the numbers with a Tesla pack because they’re 2-3x as expensive as a leaf one on a already pricy conversion but I’d guess you could probably get the 150 mile range I mentioned in my first comment by using one, depending largely on the car. Of course at that point using an absurdly efficient and…

My landlord has a Jensen Healey project car with a dead motor, and I’ve often thought it would be a fun rear only hub motor conversion. It’s small, light, and given that it would be used for Sunday drives could probably get away with a 20 mile range. It’ll never see a track and needed a new suspension anyways, so it…

In theory, yes. In practice, the energy density of batteries is far too low to make that practical. Using the Volvo S90 as an example (because it has a plugin-electric and gas version so we don’t have to guess at efficiencies), with a leaf battery pack as a baseline (since they’re the only ones readily available) we…

Yeah this idea is phenomally dumb until energy density goes up. You end up with some junked leaf batteries and 40 miles of range since the ex-ICE car doesn’t have room for a battery pack designed into it. Best chance on conversions is hub motors and filling the trunk and front with batteries, but then it’d handle like…

Yeah isn't that just the dissmiss behavior?