All sports are showcases of physical and mental capabilities. Competitive eating is no less dangerous (possibly less dangerous) than football.

Get a load of this guy

well this is awkward

All three of you in this thread sound like you’d be fun at parties

Before I get too old and start having kids, I want to get in the infield of some races like the Indy 500, Daytona 500, Talladega, and maybe a 24hr race or two. Camp 4-5 days and go on a little bender. I don’t plan on having kids any time soon, but I’m not getting any younger.

I’d even be cool with the auto, but that 4 speed slush box is a real downer

So the entire rear area is unusable? That’s dumb. Can’t open the trunk or lift the hard cover? That’s a ton of unused cargo space. ND for that alone.

Most of us here can distinguish the difference between the two. But when will automakers learn that most of their customers are stupid? These are the same people not knowing the difference between the Bronco and the Bronco Sport. 

Then there’s Guy Martin’s 3.5Ecoboost

YOU’RE A VAN

Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody Redeye has entered the chat

It’s this and there’s no other even close

chill out

you looked at a picture of a sandwich on a shower ledge and the thought, “that’s not enough kraut” was one of the first things that came to mind?

If they were shopping on fuel economy and EV range, they would opt for a sedan. Customers want the “safety” of a higher riding vehicle and the “utility” of AWD. They claim they need room for their kids and passengers, but then buy crossovers with less headroom (and legroom) than some sedans.

clearly they want you to burn it

Lot of places seem to be doing this already. My old job as a “process engineer” (engineering specialist: process) didn’t require an engineering degree.

Reduce passenger and cargo room for 1-2 more MPG. Makes sense!

I’m aware why it’s designed that way. Doesn’t make it less stupid looking. Crossovers have just as bad rear headroom now than sedans.

As long as the rear doesn’t slope downward like most crossovers do, I like it.