holdfastmcleod
Hold Fast McLeod
holdfastmcleod

You're reading far too much into this. You have no idea how he is in bed either. Frankly, since she posted the spreadsheet and stated that she hasn't had time for sex because of work, chores, and body issues - I'm more inclined to think that there is no major problems with his performance in bed. Otherwise, why

Yes, he should work on discovering what her needs are, sure. But, she is given clear opportunities to address this and talk about her needs, but instead chooses to shut out her husband to watch Friends or simply because she is feeling gross. She needs to take responsibility for addressing her needs in this

She isn't doing shift work at Applebee's. She isn't working doubles, she's got double the workload, due to lay offs in her office. Something that she (and he) will need to come to grips as she considers her career life/home life balance, because that's not likely to be temporary.

Yeah. You're right. His complaint doesn't factor anything else in. But her response on Reddit doesn't show that she's attempted to remedy this imbalance in their relationship - which he is clearly oblivious to. Yes, he's asking for sex, but sex isn't just sex in a relationship, it's him asking to have an intimate

Not putting all the responsibility on her at all. There could be many reasons she's not initiating sex, and I'd be a fool to walk into that speculation. What is clear, is that neither one of them is getting out of this marriage what they want. And you're right, there is nothing indicating that he has asked her for

I read the post. I mean the relevant piece where she actually says something about morning sex. I would love to read that if you can bring yourself to post one more comment here to me, please cut and paste that, because that is what I cannot find.

Oh yeah. Definitely agree with that!

I'm not really interested in how many times these people have had sex or whether it was in the morning, the night, in a house, or with a mouse. What is clear, is that by him creating this spreadsheet, he is demonstrating his frustration with his relationship. He is not having his sexual needs fulfilled sure, but the

No, you don't get to say that. I very clearly criticized the husband several times in other posts for his horrible behaviour in handling this breakdown of communication.

Yeah... but... we don't know what housework he is putting in. They just bought a fixer upper. We don't know how much work he is doing to fix it up. There may be inequalities. Sure. But they need to address those issues. Refusing to having intimate relations only shuts down the conversation.

I missed the part where he refused sex in the mornings, yes. I understand that in the Reddit post she suggested mornings as an alternative, but he refused it. I cannot find that Reddit post, so I can't speak to that, but does she say that he refuses or are you reading into that? (I'm not trying to be snarky at all

Oh, I did read that. Just because she claims she was blindsided, however, doesn't mean that he didn't actually attempt to have this conversation with her.

I agree with most of what you've written. However, we don't really know if she was blindsided. This spreadsheet is a pretty drastic move to make (and a really dickheaded thing to do to someone while they're in no position to rebut), so I have to believe that he has attempted to discuss his frustration with her prior

And actually, I am making an assumption. One, as it turns out, really isn't as relevant as I first thought anyway. There is a breakdown of communications on both sides and while we may easily focus on the physical fulfillment of sex, the very creation of this spreadsheet indicates that the emotional and intimacy

If it is, in fact, "all about HIM and HIS wants / needs" isn't it reasonable to suggest that if she were initiating intimacy and those "wants / needs" (as you state) were being met, he wouldn't be creating this spreadsheet? I'm not condoning all of his behaviour - using her work email, sending it off before a ten-day

Please, share this special insight. Rarely does the fault of a troubled relationship reside with only one person.

Actually, to amend above, we don't know that she hasn't initiated sex, but does anyone here believe that we'd be looking at this spreadsheet if she had?

Yeah... In my head I'm trying to give them both the benefit of the doubt, and really, we're seeing a tiny glimpse of their relationship amplified by the Gawker sounding chamber, but I don't hold out much hope for these two.

We can only get out when we're given something to work with. Do you have any special knowledge about his sexual techniques? If she isn't communicating that she wants a change in the bedroom and instead just lists "tired" or "gross" or "sweaty" as her reasons, why shouldn't we take her reasons at face value?

Yeah, there really isn't a lot of hope for these two, is there? I guess I missed the Reddit line where she suggested mornings. Hmmm... that does add an element to my thinking. Still, if they are having this much trouble now, wait until the kids come!