I don’t have a German car, or a Japanese car, I just find the concept of trying to turn a built-to-price economy car into the real thing is a bit silly. If you’re saving money on it, that’s an honest bargain and great - you’re a smart shopper.  But if somehow you get tricked into thinking that your Honda Civic turbo…

But if you bought the BMW, I bet it wouldn’t be a 1 series without awd, because that’s basically what this is.

I’m thinking a hovercraft covered in disco mirror driven by a Furry would be peak Burning Man.

Just a guess, but given that’s the only version of this car with appeal to enthusiasts, I’d guess that those are the easy sales and that the tougher ones will be the rest, and they’ll be 90 percent of the cars when all is said and done. Because it’s mostly a commodity car with a bit of lux.

I think it’s insane they don’t have a version of the Ridgeline with a hybrid.

I just don’t think it’s that desirable a vehicle when they put a big turbo and some suspension on built-to-price economy car. This is the kind of car people buy, because they can’t afford something like a BMW, it’s not THE BMW!

Pitch it to hollywood!

I agree with every word of this.  Didn’t hate it, the kids seemed happy, but it was like the combined spiderman and iron man and fused it to some Latin American family values but no more or less. 

I saw Gran Turismo with my 10 year old daughter and liked it much better than I expected to.  The only criticism I could honestly throw at it, is they did that “why is he pressing a clutch in a car that has a DCT and paddles????” But the story and the acting was solid.

Duh... It’s RED

This is the first comment that was funny, and constructive.  I think nothing could have helped this car’s appeal more than a small screen for like speed and turn signal indicators.  Even if nothing more. The rest is fine and ventilated seats would be an improvement.

I like Teslas, but I’m not so into them that I know every hardware change.  I do know they make hardware upgrades at random points in model years so it’s possible that there are few changes.  They do a lot of changes that aren’t styling so if you want to be an optimist - Tesla don’t pander to your fashion sense, they…

Ok, so if we ignore the people who yell at clouds and want asthma inhalers with diesel fumes... this was already a car as good as everything that’s come out this year. Your personal taste in styling, or 2 box vs 3 box shapes may vary. You may have an opinion about Twitter or Elon Musk, and that’s cool. You might also…

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Or they are a mix of horse and buggy and gas engine.

The note I detect on here is nothing like

I’m really sorry for you family struggle.  The long, slow decline that globalism has brought to the middle class and large swaths of the working class hasn’t been dealt with and it’s left anger that people are looking to false prophets for answers.  It’s happening around the world too, in particular where immigration…

Beyond software, I’m not sure that electric cars need as much “engineering” Obviously battery tech will be key, but beyond that and the constant feature updates and patches, things should get simpler. No engines, transmissions, differentials, turbos and all the complexity. The downside I suppose is that being…

I took my 10 and 8 year olds for a sort of “hey this is a super-hero movie, whadaythink?” They really enjoyed it. If I were going to summarize it, I’d say it’s iron man, only the suit makes the man instead of the other way around. Also felt really strong Spiderman vibes. The writing was pretty good if a little…

And back to the drawing board for a discussion topic! :-)