Having had a G8 GT way back when I didn’t have kids and could indulge in a RWD gas guzzler, I was hoping this would be at least nearly as roomy. Unfortunately, it felt less roomy to me than my 2012 S60 R Design. I love the design, but it’s just indulgent enough that a 40something with 2 small kids had to say, “nice…

Because it’s so damn ugly no one steals them.

The fuel was cheaper, supposedly the motors made less carbon monoxide, they got far better mileage, the motors last longer. The computerization and things like urea injection also made them seem like awesome tech because it cleaned up a lot of the particulate that diesel engines produce. Unfortunately, a lot of the…

I’d like to suggest a comparison test between this and the Mitsubishi Outlander as a Meh Car Monday

Getting rid of the grille is a start. Having the front of an expensive car resemble and electric razor struggling to take a dump doesn’t equal desirable. Not only that, but they have done EVERYTHING possible to make incongruent, clashing details all over their cars. It’s like they want to corner the market of old…

With two kids and their stuff, as well as an older mom who uses a scooter / walker wherever she goes. This would be about as fun a car as I could make fit to my life. I’m interested.

That Russia / North Korea arms deal is a go!

Agreed, though I’d still rather have the wagon if I’m offered the choice. I’m stuck in a CUV because family :-).

Everyone ready for the byoScreen upcharge?

I think Finding Dory is much worse than any of the Cars movies. I was bored. I wish they would do something more contemporary with cars - there are so many pop culture references that could make good characters. K.I.T.T., Speed Racer, the Bullet Mustang, Vin Diesel’s Charger, etc. Why isnt’ there a Lambo Suv voiced by…

Beat me to it.

It reminds me of that Lancia Thesis, if slightly less strange.

It’s interesting that each era seems to settle on a basic shape and repeat that over and over. Now it seems to be the fastback sedan, with or without a hatch, that’s the default shape going forward.

No GOAT till it has CarPlay.

Not trying to be sexist, so if it sounds like it my bad, but these were kinda marketed to young women who wanted something “stylish” but really didn’t care at all if it was fast. I think those women nowadays want a compact SUV - perhaps ironic in that the performance is probably about the same.

Still slow! Now less thrilling!

All I keep seeing is “white people are crazy and awful” and “black people are terrible” and no one is thinking about the child. This is how you raise another generation of kids who hate. Leave the parents behind, expose the boy to some diversity and someone who might encourage him. Change a life instead of judging the…

There is just not a single, solitary nice angle to look at this thing from. I’m sure it’s crazy fun to drive - but it has nothing good in it’s design at all. Nothing. I think the new Eclipse is nicer looking.

And that prototype they were showing pictures of really looks like a rebadged Pilot.

No need to despair of party loyalty because of another bland station wagon. Is this really so much worse than the X5 lease that the Republican Housewife drives to get her nails done after going to the gym without ever once using a turn signal? Neither drives fast enough to get out of our way and at least the Subaru…