It’s hollow. “Vote for him because everyone else will” isn’t going to get the people beaten down by the past 4 years to suddenly have faith in the future again.

I can see it if you take a really cynical view - that we can only elect people who fit in a certain mold and are a certain amount of terrible. I don’t believe this, but I can understand why people would. What I don’t understand is the people who think he can beat Trump because he is somehow the only one who can drive…

Yeah their stranglehold on our government is strong, but it’s fragile. They need every vote that they can get.

I am not so sure the Dems lose their teeth if Trump is out - I think a chunk of Trump’s base will be angry at “establishment” Republicans if they oust him.

Dude I always admire your optimism!

Yeah I hope so too. I mean, Trump might be immune from criminal prosecution but the rest of them aren’t. They’re probably thinking of ways to scapegoat each other too.

They’re on lockdown trying to get the story straight. For the past two weeks, every time someone defends him he literally reverses it within hours. They say, “well he didn’t do that” then he confesses to doing exactly that later on.

Exactly - and if they don’t turn on him and the Senate acquits (which is most likely I’m sure) - they need to have their fucking name on it.

Well yeahit’s only when THEIR guy says the thing they WANT to hear that they decide to believe it. We’ve all been guilty of this but most of us try to live in reality most of the time...

I’m sure this strategy won’t be lost on the people in charge, but start punishing these fucking people who aren’t protected by the office of the presidency. Let these people fall, and show everyone around Trump that they are subject to the law even if the president escapes it. Send the DOJ’s corruption to SCOTUS based…

In the US, is there any more explicit caste system than airline travel? Last time I booked a flight I had to pay extra for a carry on bag and to choose my seat. It’s not that I feel owed anything, just that it’s incredible to be explicitly denied things next to another person in the way that it happens there. 

I don’t think all of these people fit into your category, but hopefully the numbers will be high enough. I mean, I think about the asshole Trumpers I know who want nothing more than for everyone to just shut the fuck up about Trump because it’s not “that bad” and their lives haven’t changed. Above all else, they want…

Not sure - saw it posted on fb. I think maybe a guest commentator? I’d go look for it but I don't want my brain to melt. 

So. Bunch of people are like, oh boy, how about all these crimes we’re doing, one guy says NOT CRIMES ALSO LET’S NOT TEXT ABOUT THE CRIMES and Trump’s case is closed.

Some Fox News person like a week ago was saying they literally have to use the words “quid pro quo” for it to count! Hahahaha 

I’m sure plenty are but there are people I know in real life saying this who aren't like.. Russian spies haha. 

Yeah it’s pretty typical antichrist stuff that a bunch of scumbag religious leaders are following him. 

I still have a couple grandparents who have miraculously been immune to him (much to my relief). They are very conservative and religious but I think they are the (rare) type who recognizes that Trump is anti Christian. 

I know. Not that anything makes sense these days but he's basically just saying the whistleblower is lying about things he wants to be the only one lying about!

When I was in my 20s I kept thinking I was just more mature than people and eventually they’d grow up.