Kill them with fire. Put them in a Ferrari.

Perhaps your joke needs a little work. Come back when its ready...

Ah! So THAT'S where the oh-shit handle is!

I know the guy who bid on the wreck afterwards (same guy who repaired the Eddie Griffin Ferrari.) It was a Bugatti. Go look at the video again...

That's my point. The Camaro is HUGE.

That's my point. According to WGP, adding the LS2 engine only added 60 lbs to the car. (I'd like to see more detail on that!) So we're still under 3000#. A 2+2 car with a V8 can be done under 3000# yet the Camaro is a portly 3800#.

Oh yes — I forgot. Pelicans. Mutated invisible pelicans.

Thanks for the link! I see that Chevy, li8ke everyone else, is taking the band-aid approach to reducing weight:

Galveston Bay. A friend in the exotic car business knew the owner.

Looks swollen — like it was stung by a bee.

I was looking for an well-informed answer. I guess I was expecting too much from you.

An IRS? Really? Why would an IRS handle better than a live axle?

Will it keep you from driving it into the ocean?

Well start with serious and see where that goes. I'll let you know later...

I'm guessing the STi will come in somewhere around 220-240HP. Better, but I'd be happier with more.

I've driven a few of those on the track — fine little cars, but they just didn't do it for me. Dunno why...

If true, the Mustang my get the nod. the most likely thing to blow the deal is if the GT's cost goes up significantly (they said it would go up a little — we'll see.)

Or I may just say "screw it" and get a used Boxster S. That is a VERY fun car to drive on the track, and they're dirt-cheap used.

4000 pounds. What a porker. Obviously it NEEDS fat tires, big brakes, and 500+ horsepower to deal with all that weight. Even at $30k, I'm not buying any kind of performance car that weights over 3200# (and that goes for the Mustang too, Chevy fanboys.) At $70k, this puts the car squarely in the "are you kidding…

Tell you what, go and take a Focus, put it on a chassis brace and twist the body. Tell me how much the hatch opening lozenges per 1000 ft-lb of load.

It shows that cutting that big hole in the back of the tub hurt torsional rigidity. Please try to stay on the subject.