speaking out of experience, here in NYC on 3 different occasions (and not all in bars/clubs) i’ve seen off duty police puff their chests our put on a show for the females in the surrounding area and mouth off to guys with 6 inches and 50 pounds on him. When they called his bluff he quickly pulled a badge.

I don’t know if it is more human to lose control of your emotions when provoked, or more human to find nonviolent ways out of confrontations, but I do know there isn’t really a “right” answer. I just try to view things as “productive/constructive” or “destructive” instead of viewing things as right and wrong, and tend…

Oh, I’m sure if they were off duty plumbers it would’ve been mentioned over and over in every story.

Woah, I’m not siding one way or the other. I wasn’t there. I was just stating that all we know is that off duty officers got beat up by professional football players.

“The person who was hurt more is clearly less at fault” is not substantial grounds for a conviction. If you can determine full culpability from that TMZ video, more power to you.

Yep, don’t forget the third side! (The truth).

“thugs hiding behind a badge (not out of the question, right” They are philly cops, so it’s basically a statement of fact.

If the off-duty cops were working for the establishment at the time it becomes a good bit sketchier that the cameras were “not working,” does it not?

Also: The fight aside, why is the larger conversation centered around criticizing McCoy for having put himself in this kind of situation or environment?

It’s a good example of what happens when toxic macho cultures collide over alcohol.

Philly sports talk radio keeps framing this as if McCoy sucker punched a uniformed cop or something and it’s kind of astounding.

Possibly because our court system stills seems to play the word of cops above normal citizens, even “celeb” citizens like McCoy.

‘The off duty officers involved are not expected to be charged.’