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Oh, it’s even worse than that. It was 42 white kids. Just 5 kids of color who got admitted with lower scores than her.

Can you point me to the GPA, SAT, and other useless standardized test scores of the minorities who got in with crappier scores? How would she even know that those other kids had a worse high school performance? I don’t know what race or gender you are (so maybe you’ve heard this all before) but people seriously

She should receive that message because it’s true. She was a totally unremarkable applicant who gave the university no reason to want her, and who rejected their offer to admit her as a sophomore if she proved herself elsewhere first. That’s a very nice deal: it’s basically the chance to build her deficient resume at

Why would she feel she earned admissions with mediocre academic performance? She evidently felt at some point she was good enough to be carried through to automatic admission.

What I wonder is why her GPA was so high when she had that as her SAT score.

I am pretty sure she got an 1180 out of 1600. Nobody ever really took the writing section seriously.

Still no. Because a kid who did not go to a “good” school, who did not live in a “good” neighborhood, who had to bust his or her ass to earn every grade they got, is a way more desirable student student for schools to have than a white girl who was given every opportunity to get excellent grades but didn’t. Do you not

Except for the fact that even if she had been black she still wouldn’t have gotten in. Therefore she did not suffer any harm from affirmative action.

Yeah, her whole premise seems to be that she was first among the last. Like if anyone else hadn’t gotten in, she was the next logical choice, or that somehow she was a 10 when they were letting in 6s. It sounds like she wasn’t even the top of the second tier of students. She was a 4 when they let in 8s.

Yeah, for example, I have to imagine that the “holistic” admissions process is a way for UT Austin to admit recruited athletes who would not qualify for admission under the 10% plan. I’m sure there are way more Abigail Fishers displaced by athletic recruiting than the minimal affirmative action used by UT Austin.

What? I don’t think this person is saying that the second she got rejected she should have gotten an “It’s because you’re not good enough” speech.... I think they are saying that, before letting their daughter *take her claims of reverse racism to the Supreme Court* those parents should have sat her down and said “you

The number of minorities who got in with lower scores is so small relative to the size of UT’s freshman class that its almost a statistical blip. Sure race may have been a factor, but then how do you explain the fact that, while there were only 42 minorities who got in with lower stats than Fisher, 168 minority

Sure, but you used “partly” to emphasize race. Not, “Abigail, you didn’t get in partly because your extracurriculars were international travel and not volunteering.”

When your kid has bad grades, not because they didn’t work hard, not because they didn’t do what was asked of them, but because they’re just a mediocre student- that’s a bitter pill to swallow. Do you know anyone ready to admit their kid isn’t really smart? This goes beyond “we’re all special” to poking a huge gapoing

Right? I mean, my parents are actually pretty racist, sadly, and even they would have told me to suck it up and go somewhere else, or spend a year at another state system school and transfer in. I just can’t imagine not getting in when I *don’t meet automatic admissions criteria* and then assuming it’s because I’m

I interview for my alma mater. A parent of high school aged kids told me: “I can’t believe your rejection rates for a 3.3 student”

You’re presuming that the points afforded for race are the ones that tipped the balance (I actually don’t know how much they are weighted). But it’s entirely possible that a student with lower SAT scores and grades than Abigail Fisher scored higher than she did on things like the personal essay, or extracurriculars,

These upper middle class parents need to get real with their offspring: race and money can only get you so far.

And UT said even with the point system if she was black, SHE WOULDN’T HAVE GOTTEN IN.

I latched onto that statement, too, for different reasons. Did she and the Fair Representation Project do some sort of research into the students (I know that they looked at their test scores and grades)? How does she know that the students who got admitted did fewer activities than she did? What does she know about