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The Great & Powerful Turtle
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You're missing the point. It's bad enough that Jay Silverheel's Tonto has a legacy of racism surrounding it (most especially the pidgin English he spoke). But compounding that with hiring a white guy to play a Native exacerbates an already problematic situation.

Thankfully your insistence on keeping racist caricatures alive "for their cultural value" is starkly transparent for the mountain of bigoted apologism and horseshit that it is. As is your personal belief that we live in a post-racism world.

A cowardly decision in the extreme. Fiction is meant to be read and yes, sometimes, critiqued. Attempting to safeguard ridiculous writing is a crusade on borrowed time.

Christopher Reeve absolutely was a flawless Superman/Clark Kent. You'll see no argument from me on that front. But aside from that and the unsurpassable theme (it and the Danny Elfman Batman theme will hopefully stand the test of time), I find it an incredibly dated film series that continues to age rather poorly.

How much logic and real-world physics should one bring to bear upon a fictional world? Should gravity work? Should escape velocity?

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Posted because it's necessary. Fiction is meant to be inapplicable to the real world.

"And Tonto speak broken English, use strange customs as plot device, save white man's ass whole lot'um. Cliche? Yes, but he's the mold that made it."

I'm dying for someone to do a pulp hero team up movie.

Sorry... the facial structure? You're serious?

Yeah... funny story about Depp's "Native American-ness".

You're missing the point entirely.

There's far too many ifs and maybes in that statement.

In another universe, this movie covered the better written Dynamite Entertainment comics. :( I secretly hate that universe.

Kind of with you on this one. The William Tell Overture association with the Lone Ranger is so old (and yet so iconic), it's screaming to be resurrected by someone bold enough to use it.

Dammit! You beat me to it!

And who knows? You might win a special ticket to Fhloston Paraaaadiiiiiise!

Hahaha! Now THAT's the Kansas I know. :)

He's one of the biggest reasons I'm dying to see this movie. [tangent] If nothing else, to see why the Boardwalk Empire writers kept such thin focus on him this last season.[/tangent]

Except that it's more than just one cheesy effect, isn't it? With the exception of maybe the first half of the first film, a lot of both I and II are unabashedly cheesy and campy (Luthor as the world's most villainous Century 21 Agent... his bumbling, played-for-laugh sidekicks...a time travel maneuver at the end of I

Interesting. Well discovered.