Jesus, it's like watching someone mow down an army of strawmen with his car.

Exclusion to the detriment of the health of that group is a short path to stagnancy and incest. :-\

But you're missing my point. If geekdom, tribalistic or inclusive, is up for grabs... why the hell would we want exclusion to dominate the culture? The worse traits of it can be changed with discussions like these.

You'll have to ask Hizzoner Mortimer J. Fluffybritches. He may be able to track one down for you, chained to a heap of scorn.

Sorry. I call complete and total horseshit on this one. The umbrella of geekdom is simply too huge, too varied and too inviting for anyone—-and I do mean anyone—- to ostracize someone based on arbitrary and insecure criteria. Geek culture, prefix and all, is massive and is, unfortunately for the kingmakers, ruled over…

"Makes my dookie twinkle, man."

To all-self appointed arbiters of who qualifies as a "real" geek and who doesn't... kindly do us all a favor and piss off. Your Sailor Moon wand/collector's edition lightsaber doesn't grant you any authority to speak for the geek community. And you're ruining the fun for the rest of us.

Well said.

This. Goddamit so much, this. I want to know who comprises this secret Star Chamber of Geek Qualification so I can beat them to death with a Nerf bat.

But I honestly do not understand this kind of insecurity when it comes to what we love. It's not under threat. AT ALL. As a matter of fact, there's far safer ground now, culturally and societally, then ever before for geeks. And people who may be pretty or famous who are drawn to geek culture.... so bloody what? How…

I'd absolutely agree with this. Knowledge is the cudgel of dominance because having it means you have greater currency to spend in those circles. Very much ties into the evolutionary power behind language, gossip and storytelling.

I disagree with the absolutism in this. Geek culture is propelled by interest. Period. Full stop. Anyone who says there are credentials or hoops to be jumped through are attempting to lord something over you with no authority to do so.

I used to believe that, having grown up in a time when "geek" and "nerd" weren't distinguishable and were equally capable slurs that came with a black eye or a broken nose after school.

I'm sad just at the mention of The Fades's wasted chance. Such a great and all too brief series.

Too soon! Too soon!

This already sounds much more solid than the filmed version.

Methinks thou doest protest too much, Officer Doucherocket.

Yoink!! That little gem is meant to be used. :)

Ghost Protocol was solid because of Brad Bird's directing. All the previous MI movies should've been retitled The Egomaniacal Adventures of Ethan Hunt.

Here we go again.