These things are cool, but keep in mind you’re still buying an incredibly rare (6600 units), $150k (in 2014 $) BMW supercar. Granted, they have half a B58 motor mounted to a Rav4 transmission, so the powerplants should be okay vis-a-vis parts availability. I’ve not looked into the battery packs on these specifically,…
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The new Camry is a nice car. The new hybrid system feels faster than the 232hp would suggest and Toyota’s tuning with the transmission is ace. The engine responds to inputs immediately. You can’t brake boost toyota hybrids, which makes their standing start times artificially low.
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Go ahead and enjoy this technician video on ‘how to open the hood on an i8' and other horrid operations. Note the number of times they say ‘do something x way or you will break it’. The entire car is built like this. Pull on the emergency door handles wrong and they break. Open the hood wrong and you fuck the paint.
Jesus....I cant unsee that after you mentioned it. Back end birth canal, fo shiz.
If you can get past living with one of the hardest cars to get in and out of (seriously they are considerable worse than any other car with butterfly doors Ive ever experienced), these are seriously decent cars and Ive even driven two adults in the back seats with no complaints. They are pretty sluggish if the battery…
the engines are prone to going boom and any service is engine out. also the hybrid batteries are on borrowed time. there is a reason they are so cheap.
“the i8 looks like a million bucks”
Problem is, you’d occasionally have to look at the back end of the thing
You can't fix stupid and any time you idiot-proof something along comes a bigger idiot
Part of the problem is that it runs trains at high speeds through notoriously flat Florida where they cross 178 rail street-level crossings over 66.5 miles.
Fair enough!
At one point I would have agreed with you.
Hold on, all the drum beating to “Just buy the van already” and nobody suggested a Sienna, Odyssey, or even a Pacifica? Very disappointed! C’mon, a relatively new Van can absolutely be had under the price ceiling set.
The price is tempting, but having owned one of those, I don’t think I’d want to own it out of warranty. I had mine for a little over two years (it was a 2022), and it spent one out of every eight days that I owned it at the dealer, waiting on one part or another.
I love eCVTs. Granted, I’ve only owned/driven Ford and Toyota hybrids, but I’ve found their eCVTs to be excellent for “fun” driving. I used to drive the balls off of my wife’s Prius on back roads and enjoyed it more than any of the Mazda hatches I’ve owned. And I think the Fusion hybrid is the best sporty economy…
You got them mixed up. Hybrids don’t use CVTs. They use eCVTs. They are planetary gears which are part of the electric motor. Much more reliable than even a conventional CVT. Only downside I see is, depending on the engine, it may sound bad.
As far as I know, Honda is the only company to ever put a manual in such a wide range of hybrid vehicles over such a long time period (or maybe at all? if Europe got something we didn’t). The CRZ, insight, and civic hybrid have all been offered with it at some time or another.
We have been living in post ‘lude time since 1985, unfortunately.
Of course Jalops are going to cry about the CVT, but I think a manual was not only unrealistic, both because of the market and because of the tech, but also that it actually may be a good thing when it comes to performance. Hear me out;