That may be the best description (besides “abomination”) I’ve heard yet. 

If I pay that much for that car, will my mullet grow back?

It’s weird-I like the front half, I like the rear half, but the way the 2 halves come together is jarring to my eyes. Nice to see that Hyundai has embraced the small car market and not entirely abandoned it.

I’ve flown Spirit and they are absolute clowns compared to Ryan. Low cost shouldn’t mean incompetent. I’ve never tried Frontier but might give Allegient a try since they fly from a close-ish airport.

we’ve already bailed them out with crushed flights, baggage fees, $12 dollar shitty snacks and ridiculous fares. Having flown Ryan in Europe I feel extremely cheated by our domestic airlines, it’s a cattle car both ways but at least on Ryan I’m paying steerage prices for steerage class, Bailouts my ass. 

“only one side has a sliding door” and that’s good because when that one fucking door falls off out of the track you still have a whole side of the van that is solid. We don’t need to discuss the transmission, we will nod knowingly and massage the beast with gasoline and highway flares.

It should be set on fire so that chocolate POS transmission never hurts anyone ever again.

The bride and I had the bad luck of having to divert to I-10 and the number of trucks was amazing to see. There was a hold up due to a truck rear ending a cargo trailer or camper getting rear ended by a truck, what a debris field! But we were amazed at the line of trucks, looking between them was like looking down an…

might help some other sap, but we buy ourselves a bale every three/four months or so on our trips to the big city Sams Club. Now if we wants I’ll fill his car with TP in trade for this!

Sure the car has lots of experience and looks good but unless I’ve completely missed something these are not the 911's of BMW. Only in a fevered dream of a Covid sufferer would this be worth 65 benjies. Nice but CP

Right there is the correct answer. 

Kudos for actually driving this car, they were made to be driven, not as garage queens or occasional Sunday morning drivers. I’m not afraid of miles anymore, but not comfortable with quite that much cash for such an “expereinced” vehicle. So reluctant CP, it’s kind of in a no mans land, if this is the 911 you can…

The problem as I saw iit was that instead of trying to compete, the Big 3 decided it was easier to guilt everyone into buying the substandard goods rather than rolling up the sleeves and getting better. They lost a lot of ground to the foreign competition before they gave up and built better cars.. And the dealers…

Triumph-a century old heritage company firmly in the 21st century. 

I wonder if Harley started that rumor? Some ridiers take it as absolute gospel.

I owned a Sprint with a set of D&D pipes and a jet kit, thing sounded like a banshee being torn in half when it hit the powerband. Best sounding bike I’ve ever owned, my Tiger isn’t quite as good even with the TOR’s on it.

These were almost inadequate when they were contemporary, now they are a great example of why the Big 3 nearly went out of business. The problem with automotive nostalgia is that we remember how crap these all were and the best that Detroit could say was the bumper sticker “Jobless? Hungry? Go eat your foriegn car”…

Unless Harley fires every one of their dealers and starts fresh it’s toasty time. They can produce any number of great or even better product but the dealers sell hogs and chrome and lifestyle accessories. They are never going to sell Livewires.

If we absorb the information instead of the media doom porn, we can take rational steps and make better decisions.

Paris has a decent number of parking spots for ‘leccy cars.