I get the 2 extremes ($0 down, all cash). Not that they both make sense to me, but I get it from a human behavior point of view. 

Should have walked away from the CRV deal and found another dealership. Don't put up with these types of scams.

I want a uaz 4x4 van to overland in so badly.

Hell yes

I’m not sure they will make it to the US, but the Patriot isn’t too bad. Russian tourists come to Norway in these all the time, and these cars take a beating well by the looks of it. Russian press prefers it to the Niva, by a long shot.

The Probox is the kind of car every Jalop want but would never buy. A good friend of mine who lives in Japan had one, it is the most basic and fuctional car you can have. It is made mostly to work as company car, it has a very basic interior with a built-in desk and space for work stuff. it is a rare kind of rational…

That’s the kind of basic I can like.

I didn’t know I needed this car in my life but it took me about 10 minutes to decide that I’m a Probox fanboi now.

Yeah, 5000 lbs would pretty much cover our rig as well.

When used Bolts are selling under $15k for either base or Premier, I dont see an argument for Fuel cell. Its a good thought experiment, but for now not viable.

“Minivans are so much more useful in day to day life. “

Minivans are so much more useful in day to day life.

The best part is how absolutely useless they are for hauling anything in the beds. With those over-sized cabins eating into the bed as manufacturers try to position them for family comfort. I was buying lumber the other day, shoving a bunch of lumber into the back of my Forester, just some six and 8ft boards and all…

You think that a 4500lb Camry with 30 more horsepower will be faster than a 2800lb YarisGR?

I am sure many of us are driving “older” cars that would not do half as well... watching the front crashes where the cabin does not deform, and heck the windshield survived... For reference here is a 1997 civic

And yet this car is MUCH safer than the ‘84 Jetta GLI that I put 200K miles on. And that car was probably “safer” than the ‘89 Ford Escort that I had a 65mph T-bone crash in and walked away with a bruised shoulder. From forcing the door open after the crash. It’s also in another universe from the Triumph Spitfire I…

Hmmm. Perhaps I’m too laissez faire, and certainly the actual sensors involved may show a more serious outcome for vehicle occupants, but superficially, those crash tests don’t look nearly as bad as plenty of others I’ve seen. Having lived most of my life driving vehicles *without* side airbags, it’s not as if I…

Yikes. I’m sorry, but I’m seeing nothing but design flaws and laziness. I guess they’re aiming for a cheaper market, but $36,000 as equipped is not a cheap car.

The minivan.

Even though $4,800 could buy you a hell of a lot more, seriously, this must be the nicest Reliant left on the planet, so it’s a nice price for something that belongs in a museum.