But then they go and stick airbags in them all so it eliminates the vision savings. 

You lost me at Ghibli... its nothing like a dart... zero percent like a dart.  Different platform, different motors, different everything unless you are just counting window switches... 

Idk man, Durangos are still prety spectacular... probably going away, but still better than the Jeeps. 

It was Ford, on the f-150.  Because the government made a change in the middle of a product cycle that wasn’t easily addressed.  Not ok that they did it on only crew cabs, but it wasn’t heavy duty vs light duty, it was crew cab vs super cab and regular cab. 

Because that isn’t how manufacturing works.  Especially if you go back to ram from 10-18... the cabs are literally the same cab on 1500/2500/3500.

And this is exactly why Ford shouldn’t be having to pay out 1.7B in that lawsuit.  

Its california... they only spend money to cater to a bunch of selfish fucking criminals... Its like the state motto....

But your cost of living takes away the wage benefits, and its a disgusting, crime riddled area full of entitled assholes who are angry.  Plus the noise there is constant and annoying. 

Lets just call it like it actually is... the bank doesn’t want to loan to poor people.  Regressive policies are regressive.  

Ok, I understand the point of punitive damage...NHTSA crash tests, they allowed this to be on the road... Why is Ford responsible for 1.7B for people who had a tire blowout, when their truck met the standards for the time. How far back is too far back? If I wreck a 68 Camaro convertible, can I go after GM because it…

Ok, I understand the point of punitive damage...NHTSA crash tests, they allowed this to be on the road... Why is Ford responsible for 1.7B for people who had a tire blowout, when their truck met the standards for the time. How far back is too far back? If I wreck a 68 Camaro convertible, can I go after GM because it…

1.7 Billion is an ABSURD amount no matter what though.  Lets be clear here. 

But... there’s more forest now than 10 years ago... 

You aren’t actually right on this. Autotrader setting prices?
But Cox isn’t trying to manipulate the market. Most of our banks here aren’t even using KBB, only JD Power (previously NADA). You are getting more market manipulation from Vroom, Carvana, Autonation, and Carmax than anywhere. How do I know this? We keep…

But it is an obnoxious sound... You know what that means right? Extremely unpleasant? Why would I want to listen to 70s spaceship sounds as I drive. I don’t care how loud it is, it sounds awful.
If you’d read the article you’d learn theyre actually using air and a baffled tube... but sure... stick with your mp3…

The definition that has been given is a chambered tube with air pulses flowing through... Where the air is coming from... no idea.  

But... its not an electric sound out of a speaker... does no one bother to read articles anymore?  I know they are awful here now... but ffs, its like 30 seconds to find out how they make the sound. 

Electric vehicles do in fact revolve... so revving them is a thing that happens... As you speed up the revolutions do increase.  

Still better than the Taycan... 

I would go insane listening to the Taycan for more than 10 seconds... what a horrible horrible decision that was.