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garland137
7/2/20
10:52 PM
1

If you have to subscribe to the fundamental features of your car every month, then you do not really own that car that you’re paying off.
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7/2/20
9:03 PM
10

“The only lives that matter are their own and the only power they seek is their own.They are wolves in wolves clothing, masked thieves and bandits, seeking only to devour the life of the poor and profit from the fear of others. They are maggots and parasites at best, feeding off the isolation of addiction and broken Read more

7/2/20
8:46 PM
8

A Catholic priest calling anyone else a parasite is absolutely hilarious. 

7/2/20
8:03 PM
1

This is an important point. You could buy a BMW being perfectly willing to rent the bells and whistles, but BMW could at some point decide to shut down whatever servers your car was phoning home to, and those features would be disabled anyhow.

7/2/20
6:41 PM
4

Now if I were a Catholic priest these days, I wouldn’t be saying shit ‘bout nobody.

I guess Rev. Theodore Rothrock of St. Elizabeth Seton Catholic Church feels a little different though...

7/2/20
6:13 PM
2

Until it comes time to replace a worn premium part that has features you never used. You never paid the upgrade to use the adaptive m suspension, so when it comes due, you swap it with a cheaper alternative. You didn’t pay extra for the autobraking feature and get in a small fender bender. You’re not going to pay for Read more

7/2/20
6:05 PM
2

The best part about all of this is that you still pay for all of the hardware to support these bullshit features they will want you to pay to use. You can’t have an adaptive cruise subscription, if you don’t already own the hardware. So effectively, you are paying to use your hardware, that you already paid for. Read more

7/2/20
5:24 PM
5

Or...you know...they could just make auto high beams, adaptive cruise, adjustable suspension, etc. standard to make consumer feel good about their purchase and increase brand loyalty rather than make them feel like they’re getting nickel and dimed for features that are standard on Hondas, Toyotas, etc. How would you Read more

7/2/20
4:45 PM
2

I’ve been thinking the same thing....no one is going to be wrenching on a used 2022 BMW 18 years from now. Too many computers, which were not designed to last the way things used to (W123 Mercedes anyone?).... Read more

7/2/20
4:29 PM
2

But, in order to digitally activate a hardware feature, the hardware has to be there in the first place. So Adaptive Suspension, all the sensors that enable autonomous driving, radar/lidar, seat, steering wheel heater/cooler etc. will all be there, just not active. So you won’t really buy a ‘base’ model anymore, just Read more

7/2/20
4:05 PM
3

Resale value is what I thought of too. It makes basically every car a base model come resale time. Oh you paid an extra 20k for all the fancy features? Too bad, now it’s the same as a rental spec. While I know most BMW drivers lease, this could potentially annihilate the residual value, which would in turn make their Read more

7/2/20
4:03 PM
4

It’s going to INCREASE manufacturing costs because they need to install ALL the hardware that might be ordered in the future and you can bet your bottom dollar that will be paid for by the original sucker I mean purchaser.

Then it will just sit idle until some owner buys the subscription and the relevant software is Read more

7/2/20
3:59 PM
8

We’re past peak car lifespan. The idea of buying a new car and giving it to my kids is unrealistic. The idea that all the tech in these vehicles will remain safe and reliable for 16+ years is a pipe dream. I truly believe by the time my son is driving we’ll have switched to subscription/leases for all new cars. Read more

7/2/20
3:25 PM
5

“They also made it clear that any changes that may happen in this direction would be gradual and incremental if they happen.” Read more

7/2/20
3:17 PM
5

I look forward to having to watch an ad for every 30 minutes I want to use the air conditioning. 

7/2/20
3:10 PM
9

-They also made it clear that any changes that may happen in this direction would be gradual and incremental if they happen. Read more

7/2/20
3:06 PM
30

It’s worth noting that this makes every new BMW more of a throwaway product. How long is the ConnectedDrive app and related subscription service going to be supported so buyers 20 years from now can have a fully-functioning vehicle? Read more