“Part of that is due to needing to build them. If there was no CAFE law GM may have abandoned the small car market ages ago and put their effort and resources towards better returns.”
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“Well that giant boat can have a huge battery pack for hybrid system the little car can’t. Or maybe that doesn’t work out cost wise so the little car target is easier to hit still. But that’s the future and I was discussing the present. These laws have consequences.”
“6) Accusation. You have no idea what my buying habits are or if I even care where something is made. The fact remains that the US federal government created and enforces CAFE which in turn puts pressures on automakers. The automakers react to these pressures in unforeseen ways. When new treaties are created that…
“2) Creature comforts are irrelevant. Most added weight comes from meeting safety requirements which again is an irrelevancy to the point at hand. A red herring.”
“That’s a lot of logical fallacies.
1) I didn’t argue light truck and passenger car CAFE were mixed. Namely because they are not mixed. Pretending I did is silly. Either you are grossly in error because you don’t know how CAFE works or you intentionally created a strawman.”
“Buying credits? You’re delusional. I never brought up credits.”
“Ha. So if mergers cause job losses then what would a split lead to? Although GM has probably has so much fat on it that it’ll break even jobs wise but there will be 12 smaller car companies instead of one big crappy one.”
“My perspective is skewed? You’re on an auto enthusiast website, try to act like one and stop sounding like Joan Claybrook and Ralph Nader and their spiritual heirs. You’re defending CAFE’s market distortions, its goal of telling us what we should be driving, on the basis that they don’t hurt the domestic…
“Why don’t you go look up how CAFE works and get back to me?
“GM would have been split apart and sold off in parts.”
They didn’t/don’t - that’s my point. Randy would probably disagree though...
They also only SELL 22,000 units WORLDWIDE since 2009. (I’m of course, referring to the Porsche Panamera.)
Really? When was the last time that you were FORCED to buy a Honda Fit, a Smartfortwo, a Mini, or anything else for that matter?
Just imagine what would happen if he was short by $.02.
You do realise that the last time this happened, it BANKRUPTED two of the three Detroit 3 automakers, right?
Here is a question for everybody that’s ever driven a manual and an automatic:
Someone’s about to get fired.
If you ever get a chance to be in the SE Michigan area, there are lots of junk/salvage yards around here. You can find some really great stuff rather inexpensively and then if you must, you can ship it back home. Or maybe bring it to a place like TechShop Detroit or something, and you can rip it apart there (so you’ll…
Take this as just my own personal opinion, for what it’s worth...