I mean, they have been planning to kill the character since the inception (conception ha) of the show. It's not terribly unexpected on a telenovela that a character would die, heck they had him survive a gunshot wound to the chest and come back more charming and hilarious than ever. I think the tragedy is that it is…

This means everything. It's hard to articulate the power of being seen and heard. Thank you.

The past couple of seasons, both shows have used the 2nd runner up as the next Bachelor/Bachelorette (except this year, the Bachelorette was the 1st runner up… it's kind of scandalous. My friends have a drinking game every time she mentions falling in love with last season's Bachelor, and him breaking her heart).

Dude, I'm just summarizing a quote from the showrunner. She described him as the "soap opera" vanilla male love interest that Lifetime believes their audience wants, hence they pushed to bring the actor / character back despite his creation with an initially single season arc. She didn't want to bring him back, but…

The article kind of implies that he just did it on his own… and they were like "well, we have to keep you because they wanted you to be their vanilla love interest… but you're disgusting and so is your character, so keep on doing you, bruh!"

I believe that now, Quinn is also an executive producer. That was her big promotion. Rachel is technically promoted to showrunner. Coleman is coming in as some inbetween, I guess, and also Rachel's boss.

Oh, so do I. But they have made a point to show everyone feeling it as far more grating. Compared to last year, where everyone in the room was laughing as well as being shocked.

WHAT. Ha, no I understand. But that's why they kept making the Jew/Heeb banter. They kind of look alike, but they are just both Jewish brunettes on set. The parenthetical comment was just an aside I hadn't really thought about it before.

I think that's half the point. It's starting to wear on the audience and the characters.

Rachel and Hot Rachel - it's just commenting that they are both Jews (probably a rarity in bachelor-esque casting, tbh).

New guy's Vice-esque background is going to be interesting. Every network is trying to bottle what Vice does, but what Vice does is extremely dangerous and not super replicable. It's very industry-insider, but it's super on-point that the douchey network head would pick this guy to get his "consistent love story"…

I love how easily Rachel fires back at him. Like he continues to slash at her gut, and it wounds… but she just easily radios like she doesn't hear him, pulls his attention, and continues to get Everblastin' shit shots.

Me too. And maybe a shade classier than when Tila Tequila did it…

:D absolutely. It's all about quality over popularity; even Lifetime understands that this show is a surprise, that's why it can get away with being so awesome.

…it won a Peabody.

Every time I go into a meeting at work I try to remember Quinn when she was crashing and burning and Chet saving her. UGH shivers.

Oh I wouldn't belabor it, I just was noting that in a show that is super strong, that felt slightly unbelievable. And again, they seemed to intimate that Chet got Brad fired too. Hopefully, the dude in charge of the network would have some notification of "Chet was bullshit hence we suspended him" but I think the real…

Well, I did laugh when Jeremy caused his friend to get fired.

My understanding was that Chet was officially suspended, so it seems at that point a little bit of a leap for the network president to be like 'well, let me fire my executive and go with the guy who has been on months of leave and not inform anyone else currently on contract to run the show'. Especially for a house…

Secondly, I'm so glad you're doing coverage this year, Gwen!