So why does it have to be one or the other? We've got so caught up in knowing it all and being harsh critics of the racing we do have that we don't realize how lucky we are to still have professional racing at all. It's obviously a difficult business to maintain, so despite their flaws, we should support every form of…

Ah yes, Indy. The bastion of profitability and organizational leadership!

They haven't done anything remotely like that since GT4. All of the Skylines and Miatas were GT4 models, so it's not like they kept doing it, they just kept the cars that were done in the game. The work on most of those cars was done over a decade ago. They've come out and said that they won't ever go as deep with…

Ha, right? Wasn't it awesome of Nissan and GT to try and include as many versions of their cars as possible? Imagine all of the manufacturers were so open with their licensing!

I came sooo close to buying an E60 M5. Still want one.

Pastor chose his line based in Nasr's position and obviously tried to take up every bit of track Nasr wasn't using. That bit him in the ass, quite literally, when Kimi pushed Nasr out. Kimi was trunk to maintain control of a car going off track. Pastor was third man in to the situation, and Pastor was the only one…

He pinched down on to two other cars. Where did he expect them to go.

Judgement based on things you heard about on the internet.

Things you heard about on the internet don't give you license to cast final judgement on them.

Still enjoying the delicious irony.

It's too bad, because any one of those guys has probably done more for other people than most of us put together, through charities and awareness campaigns.

You. You said they need to go away. Being that they're television personalities, that implies you want them off of television. That's censorship.

That kind of censorship is far more offensive than anything any of them have ever said.

So, someone on TV says things you don't like, so you demand that they 'go away'. In expressing this point of view, you have said things that many people here don't like, and now they want you to go away. The irony is delicious.

*Raised Hand* Owns FR-S

So does my FR-S. In the dead of winter. In Alberta. Really, what sports cars wouldn't these days. This isn't the 70s.

Depends on what Matt Farah weighed in 1994.

If you can't enjoy a lightweight modestly powered sports car, you don't understand driving at all.

It's going to answer a lot of questions.

Dodge was around long after those specific cars were banned, but that was the beginning of the end for "stock" cars.

The cars were no longer representative of their showroom counterparts after the 80s, and after 2003 they no longer required that the hood, roof and decklid come from the street car, which was the final nail in the coffin for any direct relation between street cars and NASCAR Cup car.