This is like a pregnancy dictionary

Counterpoint: You can see Russia from your house. You know Putin would jump in as soon as Alaska emerged victorious and plunder all your oil.

I lived in Wyoming for 4 years. They would empty their nukes silos before joining CA.

People underestimate the size of Michigan. Driving from one end to another is almost 700 miles, only 150 miles shorter than TJ to OR. 600 miles are filled with rednecks all armed with rifles and shotguns. The other 100 miles are metro Detroit

I was thinking the same about MI. Highly populated. You’ve got 90% of the population in the southern 1/4 of the LP to defend the only land crossing (this assumes we destroy the Mackinac Bridge when the UP turns their back and defects to Wisconsin). If need be you could retreat to Flint and Saginaw and take advantage…

“Once California rolls in waiving the flag of inevitablity, most people in the western states will come into the fold—it’s not like they would be under illusions that they would win on their own”

And plus Michigan roads are so shitty that no one could invade without breaking down. Can’t lose!

We’re not trying to kill every single person, only to gain control of their states and resources. Once California rolls in waiving the flag of inevitablity, most people in the western states will come into the fold—it’s not like they would be under illusions that they would win on their own, so it’s either us or…

Interesting take, but “the rest of the west” is made up of a lot of mountains. That’d be some tough fighting with the advantage clearly with the defenders.

Don’t forget Ted Nugent’s arsenal.

That’s right. I grew up in the U.P. People generally think Michigan is just Detroit and some land where nothing happens. While probably not far from the truth, what people don’t realize is that the northern half of the L.P. and the entire U.P. is filled with insane, racist, gun nut hunters living in the woods just wait…

Yep. We will have a similar deal in Washington, but Eastern WA vs. Seattle will only take 20 minutes. They have been preparing for this for years. Ya’ll better watch out for Idaho though. Those fundy wingnuts will be the ultimate wildcard.

Pittsburgh matched theirs with soot and urine, so.....

Why would they need to ally with Oregon? If I’m on Cali’s War Cabinet, I’d consider OR basically a gimmie. They’d be all like “KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD” up until the moment the LA gang-bangers roll up and eat them alive.

It is getting better in PA though. Beer in supermarkets, liquor on Sunday, and I even vistited ONE of the nine Sheetz/Wawa’s that will be allowed to sell beer this past 4th of July weekend! No beer yet, but the 30 seats were all set up... outside... with no covering. The law only said they needed 30 seats, not that…

The beer regulations at grocery stores like Giant Eagle are insane. You have to buy the beer in a specific, separate beer section and can’t just buy it with your other groceries. Not knowing this, while in Pittsburgh for a game, I picked up a 12 pack and then went on buying other tailgate items. I then found out that…

Though Tom Wolf did approve the sale of beer at 9 gas stations recently! Pennsylvania might eventually reach the 21st century!

How about a little respect for the military prowess of Michigan? I present my case:

The problem with California being number 1 is that the state would probably eat itself in a Northern California/Southern California bloodfeud.

Pennsylvania is the worst. We used to have to buy liquor two days in advance for a holiday cookout if that holiday fell on a Monday. Because liquor is only sold in “liquor” stores and they were closed on Sundays and holidays. Only recently did they open for a few hours on Sundays.