I wouldn’t reducing women to mothers particularly “woke”

Ugh. This is why I just can’t with James Cameron. Sooner or later, it’s always about motherhood with him. He’s like Joss Whedon - very progressive once upon a time, but when you look deeper, you realize they can only really write one type of female character well: action mommy for Cameron, superpowered broken bird…

Jordan Peterson can’t tell you how to be a good man. The Art of Manliness can’t tell you how to be a good man. They’re both just milder shades of the same normative patriarchical bullshit that Tate spews (though AoM is, at least as far as I am aware, much less awful than Peterson - I am happy to be corrected here, I…

I have watched/studied enough Jordan Peterson to know he absolutely does not teach boys to be good men. Other than telling them to get their own affairs in order/clean their room before judging other people’s lives, which can be good advice, but is incredibly vague, he makes boys feel like helpless victims who are…

Your notifications deserve to be set on fire for the idea that “Jordan Peterson can tell you how to be a good man.” He’s a bigoted, misogynistic hack. (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest).

Yes! I hadn’t seen it but you are SO right!

In all seriousness: what are its own merits? No one can tell me! I’ve watched it twice and setting aside the original Austen novel I found it very dull and utterly pointless. Johnson may be good when she has an intelligent script (never seen her in anything before) but here she is completely bland and insipid.

If they wanted to adapt an Austen with fourth wall breaks and a “vibrant” heroine, why would they choose a story with a heroine who is explicitly learning to find her own voice and filled with regret over how easily persuaded she was in the past? It’s literally in the title.

Yes, conveying complex internal thoughts and emotions without literally declaring how they feel is an impossible task that no actor has ever attempted or accomplished.

Quite a few “tell me you’ve never read Persuasion without actually saying you’ve never read Persuasion” moments in this review.

As if Persuasion hasn’t been adapted multiple times and Sally Hawkins and Amanda Root hadn’t both interpreted that very well thank you very much.

I don’t know how anyone who’s familiar with the novel could say that this adaptation is faithful to the characters, especially Anne. They gave her the Fanny Price treatment.

Listen, I’m not fussed about slavish adherence. I’m not a purist, I love it when movies and theater get weird and anachronistic. But if you’re gonna do it, you need to understand what makes the source material work so well. Persuasion works because it’s thoughtful and introspective; if it’s gonna go the Fleabag route,…

The monologues to the camera aren’t so much the problem as what is said in it. Anne’s meekness and introvertedness was a catalyst for the story as she let her family convince her to reject the courtship of the man she loved. We see how lonely she is at the start of the story and we see her resentment towards her…

37% on RT and 41 on Metacritic... you appear to have a much different experience watching this

Came here to say this! Strident?? Anne Elliot?  This word salad makes me think that the reviewer has never even read a summary of the novel. Talk about failing to make a case.

Vibrant, OK, Austen’s writing is always vibrant. But “jocular” gives entirely the wrong idea. Persuasion is witty, but it’s a more heavy-hearted affair than usual. That doesn’t necessarily preclude the Fleabag approach, but if one were to do that then there’d have to be the appropriate tone, and not “ohh goodness me…

“The vibrant, jocular tone of the book?” Persuasion is easily Austen’s most thoughtful, even downbeat novel. There are some elements of humor, but treating it like a breezy Regency lark is exactly the wrong approach, and it’s why pretty much everywhere else hates this movie.

I mean, what else does he have to do in there? His wifi is probably shitty that far underground.

So a couple folks were assholes, and that’s justification for an international effort to strip them and anyone like them of their rights?