It is the only 4 door convertible in the USA though. ANd with manual. And with 4WD

Sahara and Rubicon have no lifts from factory. Who told you that?

I feel that Jeep has been trying to take an inherently unsafe utility vehicle, and turn it into a family car. This leaves it in the position of having to be both off-roady but safe enough to haul little Brayden and Saylor to soccer camp.

This just in:
Tall vehicles with a high center of gravity and relatively narrow track have a tendency to flip over.
Film at 11:00.

Do you think they should have used a digital tyre pressure gauge?

I’m going to sound like a broken record here, but watched the right rear tire in both 4dr Wrangler videos. Makes the JL look like that tire is under inflated or the JK had an over inflated tire there with how that tire rolls under while the other doesn’t.

I’m more curious about the what involvement the right rear tire may have to do with the roll. I’ve mentioned it in a stand alone post that both the 4dr JK and JL go up on 2 wheels, but the right rear tire rolls under on the JL increasing the contact patch where the JK’s right rear maintains it’s shape, has a reduced…

I noticed something when showing this to my Father tonight, watch the front wheels as well as right rear tires on both the JL and the 4dr JK in their respective videos. Dad noticed that the impact drags the right front into a full left lock position and it almost looks like the JL has more steering angle unless…

Apparently someone got confused about what an accident avoidance system was supposed to accomplish.

it doesn’t help, for sure, but other high CG vehicles don’t flip.  This is the frame literally pushing the vehicle over.  Granted is a special case situation, but its whats going on.

It does an admirable job of deflecting the impact, which would be great if it didn’t have such a high center of gravity to tip over.

The wrangler is a stupid vehicle* in that its track width is much wider than its body width. which means the frame rails are inboard of where they would otherwise be. Which means that when you hit it at the front by the same percentage of overlap as would be suggested by the track width calculation you bypass the…

What I’m reading here, again, is that JK>JL

Yep. Wrangler is a stupid vehicle for daily driving. Always has been. Get a minivan, it’s what you actually need anyway, tough guy.

So... based on testing the 4-door 3 times and the 2-door 0 times, the 4-door is not only uglier but also unsafer-er?

There’s so many variables involved with this, it’s impossible to test aftermarket.

Looks like rather than turning sideways and using it to spread out the penetrating force from the wall, the tire went under the body and thats what kicked it upwards, and being such a top heavy vehicle it kept going over. The video of the yellow jeep looks like it still wants to roll but doesnt get enough rotation…

If they would have disconnected the swaybar and locked the lockers, the Jeep would have climbed right up.

By the time David Tracy gets one of this model the rust should take care of this issue

Shocker: High center of gravity off road capable vehicle with minimal front overhang rides right over the effing small offset barrier test.