Haha, I was reading that comment and was thinking, “aren’t those both dead and have been dead for quite a bit?”

“There’s a reason Oldsmobiles are no longer.” Yeah because horrible mismanagement drove them from a top brand at GM to an also ran in a decade. Kind of like Lincoln... Edit: a quick search shows the Continental has been dead for 4 years. 

It really is Dodges panther platform. 

I regularly see more Lotus Emiras at my local Cars and Coffee than Nissan Z’s. That’s just crazy, and reflects how badly the dealer network has screwed over their customer base in a greedy feeding frenzy of short term, “market adjustment” driven profits.

Now I see a RAV4 and am not sure if I'm looking at a Highlander. It's gotten sooooooo big.

Agreed - if you want a midsize SUV that can tow a trailer, it’s a great choice. The extra length over the Grand Cherokee is also useful.

It’s wild, but the Durango has pretty much consistently sold between 50 and 60,000 units a year since 2011, with the highest amount of 70,000 sold in (Checks notes) 2023.

Not necessarily a single vehicle, but rather a whole segment. That being the high end luxury truck - AKA “Cowboy Cadillacs.” I’m not saying that all trucks should be bare-bones utilitarian workhorses devoid of creature comforts, but if you need shit like panoramic sunroofs, powered tailgates, quilted leather seats…

Chrysler. (yes, I know it’s not a model... but it effectively is only selling one model). Even as an owner of a 2023 Chrysler, I think that it is time to put Chrysler out to pasture to join the likes of Plymouth, Imperial, and DeSoto as stand alone brands.

I look forward to their inevitable looming extinction. In ten years, we’re going to look at them the way we look at Crystal Pepsi now.

My son’s 99 Corolla. I don’t think it’s had an oil change since 2010, the oil light has been on for at least 8 years and my son drives it like he’s trying to break the track record.

But those other 1/2 ton trucks can be used as trucks, and sometimes even are used as trucks.

Came here to say “Cybertruck” too.  Can’t go away soon enough. 

BMW has historically been hilariously bad at doing halo cars - which doesn’t mean their halo cars were necessarily bad. It started with the 507, which was a flop compared to the SL. Next up the M1 that nobody wanted, then the 8 Series, the Z8, the i8 and now this thing. Of course all of the other cars have become…

Have an ‘18.  I’m not a big minivan fan but have to agree on the practicality.  We’re a family of 4 with two car seats but it takes <30 seconds to drop the back seat into the floor to give a gigantic, flat-floored load space.  It gets >30mpg on the highway with a gentle foot and at ~70k miles has been surprisingly…

I hate the cybertruck, but they aren’t bigger than any 1/2 ton truck already on the road.

don’t know where you live but here in Houston TX of all places I see Pacificas every day. Neighbors own one, as does a co-worker, as does my father. How is a Sienna o Odyssey more “practical”? As for me I’m holding onto the ol Town and Country until the next Pacifica is released in a year or two.

It rides nicer than the Odyssey.

The BMW XM

And given their tendency to self destruct fairly rapidly--in some cases on the drive home from purchase--the problem might take care of itself.