Agreed. I think we have completely jumped the shark when it comes to performance (and EVs are making it worse). It’s an arms race now to put down the best numbers on a spec sheet; whether anyone can actually use that or can even enjoy it seems like an afterthought.

I realize this is anecdotal, but it seems to me like every person driving a modern Camry seems to think it’s a “race Camry”. 

I mean, the current C8 Z06, which like the W1 is also RWD, does 0-60 in <2.8 seconds. Does 1.2g lateral acceleration and stops from 60 mph in <99ft (some outlets claim 93ft). The ZR-1 is likely to improve on these numbers, the Zora even more so. But even within that Corvette hierarchy I think it’s interesting to see…

Probably, but I suspect it will only work once. 

I think there may be a little hyperbole going on with McLaren claiming everything to be “new”. The Aerocell is a good example. I suspect that more aspects of the car are likely similar, but you don’t market your multi-million dollar toy by telling potential buyers that it’s just an incremental improvement of what…

Looks a like a Senna/Sabre refresh. McLaren brags about the amount of time their team spent in the wind tunnel; but this is part of the problem when you let aerodynamics dictate car design, the cars all end up looking the same.

The one thing that really stands out to me… is how this car just proves that we’ve hit the point of diminishing returns on performance. All that fancy tech, aero trickery, a monster price tag, but the numbers are only incremental improvements over its predecessor and only a hair better than some of its “hypercar” compe…

I’m confident that the Z isn’t a “bad” car and I’m positive that Nissan dealers are playing the “I know what I’ve got” game. Personally I’m not interested enough to buy one; I’d rather have the Supra (or the Z4) in this class. 

Guy with more money than 99.999% of the planet has expensive car that vehicle enthusiasts like… more news at 11.

I finally saw one new Z out on the road… and it had dealer tags on it because someone was taking it for a test drive. The only other ones I’ve seen in person have been parked in dealer showrooms. I don’t think it’s selling very well at all. 

Why should it cost less than a compact truck? The Miata is a pleasure vehicle. It’s not meant to be “utilitarian”. Pleasure things generally cost more, not less.

you probably aren’t getting out the door for less than $30,000. That’s a lot of money to spend on anything, especially a car

I agree that if the 500e truly filled a unique niche, it may have found more success. People buying convertibles are already willing to spend more, so that could have been a market for Fiat. I believe the only EV convertible currently on the U.S. market is the Maserati GranCabrio.

Mini Electric is going to be more expensive thanks to the new tariff on EVs made in China.

A robotaxi that will be so wildly profitable that Tesla is going to sell it to everyone, rather than disrupt Uber and collect all the profits themselves.

He’s probably going to ramble on about how we need to elect Trump so that Kamala can’t stop us from reaching Mars. 

Sure Kevin. Keep thinking that. 

You might not prefer an ND to an NA, but the ND is objectively a better car. It performs better while also being safer. That may not align with your preferences, but it’s a fact. You’re allowed to prefer the ND, just like I’m allowed to prefer the “plastic penis extender” that is the Corvette. 

Agreed. Most new cars are just appliances at this point; but there are still a few that are really meant for enthusiasts and they are better than ever before. But those are indeed a dying breed these days as the business case to build them get harder to justify for automakers.

Concept cars and one-offs don’t belong on this list at the expense of the WRX and Peugeot 206 (or 306 even). Yes, they were “cool” but nobody could even buy them. The entire point of a hot hatch is that it is somewhat attainable for the average person.