Hopefully they have some type of programming set up to limit power delivery under certain circumstances or settings. 

I’m in Virginia. Dealers here stopped asking mark up on Z06 orders about 2 months ago. That’s when I put my deposit down and am waiting for a 2025 allocation.

Stellantis has too many brands and models that can cannibalize each other. Opel, Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat are all more or less competing for the same target market (I didn’t include Dodge in that list because it is not sold in the EU). If all those brands are going to survive there needs to be a refocusing of what their…

That’s obviously not how our licensing system works, but I am actually of like mind when it comes to requiring additional training for a high horsepower car. Exactly where you set those limits is a bit tricky, as some vehicles need to make more power for their intended purpose (think trucks for hauling); but yes, in…

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I think that may actually be one of the reasons why Musk has thrown his support behind Trump… he would love nothing more than to see the FTC, SEC, CFPB, CPB, OSHA and the IRS destroyed or severely weakened.

Yup. Remember how a few months ago before the shareholder vote on the pay package, he threatened to move all future AI development out of Tesla?

Let’s be honest, most of these super high horsepower cars rarely get driven very much; and even less frequently in the manner that was originally intended. The numbers are pretty much for bragging rights at the country club bar at this point.

You might want to go look up the weight of a 911 Turbo, Ferrari SF90, McLaren 750S, etc. etc.

Indeed. Personally I’m not a fan of slapping turbochargers on everything, but I’m impressed they preserved the high redline; especially since it already makes 800 lb-ft from 3,000 rpm.

You actually can buy a Z06 for $150k (or less depending on options), most dealers are selling at MSRP now even though allocations are still limited. I know because I have an order in at MSRP. 

Yes, compared to an Elise weight has gone up quite a bit, but it’s not really an Elise replacement; the Emira replaced the Evora which was already at 3,175 lbs.

Porsche 911 Turbo : 3,635 - 3,790 lbs

TBD, no pricing released yet. Will be on sale “middle of next year”; which probably means deliveries start in September of 2025 given how the production schedule has been running for the last few years. 

When C8 production started GM seemed to be giving priority to higher trim/equipment levels, but it was an odd time during the pandemic with all sorts of constraints on optional equipment due to supply chain issues. There are still constraints on some parts today (mostly carbon fiber bits), but there is currently no…

The 2025 911 Turbo starts at $199,195; the Turbo S starts at $232,395. So maybe the way to think of the ZR-1 is that it offers 911 GT2RS ($294,450) performance for +/- 911 Turbo pricing?

Exactly, although it’s not quite as simple as just accounting for inflation, because you’re getting more equipment, safety, better technology, and more performance per dollar than in 2002.

I hate to say it, but $100k is the new $75k. Cars generally have gotten more expensive across the board, especially performance cars. I think a better way to look at Corvette prices is to compare them to their competitors of the time. For example:

Hysteria “purple” looks a lot more like a dark indigo blue to me. It’s an intriguing color, but I feel like it does hide some of the design elements.

That’s a lot more power than I was expecting honestly. And impressive they preserved the high redline with the turbocharging. I wouldn’t be surprised to see these priced at an MSRP over $200k, but I guess that still makes them a relative bargain compared to the competitors.