One of my neighbors is a police detective and she drives a mango orange SRT Challenger 392… she has both a BLM flag and a “safe space” flag in her front yard. She’s a gear-head and the Challenger was her dream car that she bought for herself when she made detective. Yeah… I know, I have a pretty cool neighbor.

Absolutely nothing against the Toyota Corolla, but are people actually paying mark ups on Corollas?

Wait, so the Willys trim is available as a 4xe now too? Wasn’t Willys supposed to be kind of the “basic” option that came without any frills or luxuries?

But we’ve already known that to be true, no?

Well if the Cybertruck “1/4 mile drag race” video is any indication… I don’t think Tesla is very good at units of measurement.

I mean, what you are describing is basically the idea of a “fan car”, no? Isn’t the McMurty doing that already to achieve its <2 second 0-60 time? I’d imagine there is only so much traction a tire can generate, even with additional downforce from fans/thrusters. 

Yeah, it seems like they shuffled around trim levels and packages a bit when they moved to this newest generation. I’m a bit confused by all the trims they have for the Grand Cherokee now. 

So because the study results don’t fit with your personal preconceived conclusions about the subject, means the study is automatically invalid?

I can’t recall the name of the black trim package, but I think the “High Altitude” trim was basically the Summit + the blackout trim. Don’t remember exactly when that one came on the market either. I want to say they were offered as part of the model refresh, so it was probably later in the lifecycle (2018+ ?).

Agreed. The thick pillars and the placement of chrome trim conspire to make the design look heavy and dated. It is not a “pretty” vehicle; but then I don’t think that was Jeeps goal either.

I agree that the current designs use too much bright work. Jeep need to offer a black trim package like they did with the WK2; a lot of people opted for that option once it became available.

You may be surprised… I can’t speak to the long term ownership experience, but go sit in a new Wagoneer and see what you think of it. I mean, for $114k I had high expectations, but the Wagoneer is very much a luxury car. Personally I think the exterior styling is ugly, and it’s way too big a vehicle for my needs; but…

Maybe you should reach out to the study authors to get your specific questions answered.

But don’t lose sight of the fact that charging infrastructure was, and remains, a big hurdle for people in Europe. Giving people a PHEV but not a place to charge it, isn’t very helpful. Many people in Europe don’t have a garage or private driveway to install charging infrastructure. The Netherlands has led the charge…

Really Connie? Is that what you understood from my comment?

Bob. You need to go back and read the article again.

You’re only focusing on the impact of the vehicle when being used; while the study criteria clearly state that they also considered the impact during the manufacturing process of the vehicle. So the score is not just about the efficiency of the vehicle while driving.

Unfortunately I don’t think it’s limited to just the fathers. 

I would caution you against assuming that the evaluation criteria from 2018 are the exact same as those used now in 2024. Programs like this often update and improve their criteria as they carry out these types of analyses; you always learn new things to ask or look at while doing this kind of work. Tesla was…

I think to liken this internal investigation at Red Bull to a government investigation is bit disingenuous. The government has multiple divisions who’s responsibility it is to provide oversight, so an investigation can be managed by a separate entity within the government (often times a special independent council is…