Up until 2023, there was no income limit on the tax credit. So yeah, all the early Taycans got the tax credit.

But i was clear that i said “EVs as a whole”. The depreciation of EVs is often calculated wrong because th tax credit isn’t included. That makes little difference to a $200k car, but it makes a lot of…

Concerning EVs as a whole, these depreciation analyses usually omit the $7500 tax credit. So it’s not quite fair. They use the MSRP, not the MSRP - Tax credit.

The tax credit has gotten harder to get, but for 3 year old EVs everyone got it.

Yeah, and in the realm of EVs Ford delivered an EV truck 2 years ago that wins by a mile in value against this thing.

I am all for small cars and small EVs, but this will have to be priced like the Bolt to sell.

Would make a great 2nd car. Considering million of Americans have a multi-car family, it works, if the value proposition is there.

This list gets it right. IMO, most Americans should be lining up to buy either a Maverick Hybrid or a Bolt.

Finding both isn’t easy, but they stand out as the best value cars available. 

Better in that it is: quicker, quieter, smoother, more fun than its ICE counterpart, can start in my garage without killing me, practically free to drive, no maintenance, more convenient every day, soon will be able to power my house with V2G, soon will act as solar energy storage, the list goes on...

What’s worse?…

Spot on. Level 1 is adequate for most. The need for level 2 actually goes down with a long range EV, because you have such a large capacity you can run a deficit multiple days in a row and catch up later.

Have a big trip? Hop over to the DCFC to catch back up. Not an issue for the rare occasion.

I use a level 2 at home,…

At this point it is not about overall carbon reduction. Rather, its that pretty soon, consumers are gonna all want pure EVs. In totality, the entire car experience is just better with an EV, carbon emissions aside. The public is waking up to that.

I’ve been driving an EV for 6 years, and a hybrid before that. Toyota…

A full EV is perfect for your 100 mile commute, why use any gas when you can use zero. Don’t listen to the battery FUD. Been on an Ev for 6 years. Never looking back.

I have an EV charger right in my garage, but still no home gas station.

Awesome. Giving us what we say we want (3 pedals), but will people actually buy?

I live in Michigan too. My EV costs around $481 per year to drive 12,000 miles at $0.125/kWh based on EPA economy rating (which I beat in real life easily). I charge off peak at this rate.

A 30 MPG ICE car would cost $1280 at $3.2/gallon for the same distance.

Even if you had to buy a EVSE (all EVs used to come with…

Stop promoting this guy. He is attention seeking and makes up stats in his “studies”. It is all for attention.

I distinctly recall GM saying they were done making hybrids. Seems not.

The Mustang Mach E is also limited to $55k to qualify now too. It is frustrating, however, that the Escape PHEV is classified as an SUV, but not the Mach E.

The new tax credit is such a mess.

Generally correct, but electric motor efficiency will be much higher than 50%.

Over 90% system efficiency should be expected here. That improves the math.

You are doing yourself a disservice with that opinion.

First gen real consumer EVs were the original Roadster and Model S, and the compliance Leaf, Fiat 500E and Focus EV. No fast charging was available at this time.

Second Gen was Chevy Bolt, Hyundai Kona EV, Model 3, refreshed Leaf, and so on. Fast charging was…

Good point. He does live out in the middle of nowhere so it’s less than ideal.

Pacifica Hybrid, RAV4 Prime, or Escape PHEV seem like sane options here, although they violate your no SUV wish.

But as an Exocet and Miata owner and a person that also drives and works on (engineer) EV’s, and a cyclist myself....I vote to get over your fear and go full EV. I think you’ll find its much easier than you…

Maverick hybrid is the best deal in cars, period. Fuel economy better than an economy sedan, for price less than or equal to that economy sedan. With all the room and practicality of a 4 door truck.