It doesn’t matter which wing design. You literally can’t generate enough lift at the Karman line without entering entering orbit.

Well the same people who figured out living in a cave was better than living under a tree were once innovators in their own time.... but you want to shit on them while you ride around on their coattails?

Wait wait wait just a minute there. Now I appreciate steelies and am currently considering installing them on my ride, but cool they are not. I was happy to run them before for their resiliency and to save wear on my alloys, but when I sold that car I had the original rims put back on and damn did they look WAY cooler…

Neat.

Came here for pics. Leaving disappointed...

A ticket for what? Molesting a pile of snow?

Almost certainly carcinogenic.

You know...a 10 hour charge off a standard wall socket is actually sufficient for most daily driving needs. I’d actually probably end up gaining a decent charge in the long run.

Except that, at the Karman line, you have to be travelling fast enough to generate enough lift that you’ve now reached orbital velocity.

Oh man that couch looks comfy.

Quick question: How far would you have to pedal on one of them bicycle generators to give a Tesla a full charge?

 Sounds like smart business.

Ah.... see what’s in a name. The point is good, but you have to realise anyone with a good deal of experience has seen success and failure. Learning from your mistakes is what’s important and there’s value in paying attention to the mistakes others have made; including Lutz, Trump, Jobs, and Musk... to name a few.

Ummm... not really. Ignore wing design for a minute and think about gravitational pull and velocity. The Karman line is the minimum altitude where a craft can travel at a fixed velocity and use the gravity of the Earth to stay in orbit. Wing design becomes irrelevant because it’s no longer aerodynamics that keeps the…

Yeah.... really the only way to go is in an RV. I’m kicking myself for not buying one instead of the Jeep and here’s why: they’re cheaper to buy if you go used, you save money on rent, you have a furnace, you have a freaking kitchen, you can store nearly everything in them, you have a couch, and you have a shitter.

 Short answer is there isn’t.

 So I went ahead and read up on it. I’m still not convinced. Maybe it’s the born skeptic in me, maybe I still don’t understand the value in it.... but it seems to me like they’re pushing too hard to convince everyone how valuable it is and whitewashing the flaws. In my experience, that’s a sign of trouble I the future.

It’s true. My old VW taught me never to fall in love with any vehicle. The instant you start saying ‘I love this car’ it’s time to trade it off for something you merely tolerate.

I actually kinda want it. Ram paperweight and USB dongle are kinda neat.

... and me and most of the general populace. If I don’t understand it, I see no reason to invest my cash in it.