Oh, that I agree with. I just think having sex in an airplane bathroom is narcissistic, garbage human behavior, so any argument someone likes in favor of not doing it is OK with me :)

Or just understands that certain bodily functions/fluids are necessary, and that having sex in a bathroom that other people have to use (and of which there are a limited number) is completely voluntary and avoidable. The two don’t equate. We accept that bathrooms will be a certain level of gross because they’re…

Don’t. Grossness aside, why would you hog a bathroom on a plane when you don’t absolutely need to use it? Other people exist.

Unpopular opinion: I like Kendall. I think she’s cute. I think it’s weird that fully-grown adults have been hating on her since she was barely 18 on here.

The problem is that we treat everyone with that mentality, because it’s a central element of our collective identity, as a culture. We’ll never stop treating parents that way until we stop treating people, in general, that way.

Fair enough, although I think you’re perhaps projecting similarly when you say that people are arguing that nobody should be able to take their kids “out in public,” at all.

Oh, definitely. I didn’t intend to argue, and I’m sorry if I did, that I resent the option being available for people who have it just because other people don’t. I hate when people look at unions, etc. from that perspective! It’s just a shame that (as in most conversations about issues in our country) the biggest…

Thanks :) For what it’s worth, your workplace sounds truly incredible, and I wish more were like it, because it would benefit everybody for that level of flexibility and acknowledgment that humans have *gasp* lives to be granted.

Didn’t you (at least originally, I can’t find the comment so I might be wrong, in which case I apologize) pull that whole “if someone did the same thing to any other group/class” thing, though?

Not what I said. Just think it’s telling that this thread blew up, while those about other sides of this issue (read: women who aren’t middle- to upper-class) never, ever get this much traction.

Yo, I didn’t think you were squawking, and I wasn’t trying to either. I’m just frustrated that this thread is, as per usual, focusing on small-scale solutions that mostly rely on the goodwill of businesses, because the higher up you go on the socioeconomic ladder, the more likely those solutions are to work for/be…

Look. It’s nice that that’s an option for your business. But relying on the goodwill of individuals is not the answer to a systemic problem. That’s my only point, and we don’t have to agree on it.

My worldview is not rigid. I’d just argue that universal and affordable childcare are better solutions for most people in most workplaces than allowing children to be present in the office, because there are many workplaces (disproportionately those that employ low-income women) where it’s actually not possible.

You legitimately don’t understand how it’s offensive to equate judging a group of people who (at least in our culture, and especially among the relatively wealthy women this article is about/frequent this site) who made a choice with a group of people who face serious and tangible discrimination, no matter what they…

I somehow doubt the company will be understanding about the decline in productivity among employees who aren’t the parent, though. I think people are right to be concerned that they’ll be held to the exact same standard regardless of what is happening around them that is out of their control, because...that’s how…

This makes no sense. Quality of workplace has a lot to do with the quality of the work everyone in it does, which in turn allows them to afford to live. Like, if an office is allowing for the fact that not only the parent’s productivity will suffer? Fine, I guess, but let’s not delude ourselves into thinking they…

But this is an article about, and being commented on primarily by, women with money. The women who actually struggle most with affording childcare tend to work jobs where bringing a baby wouldn’t be feasible or safe.

...because coworkers are there to perform a function? This is like saying it’s wrong to single out the noise of someone making obnoxious personal phone calls over a business-related meeting you can hear from the conference room.

Ugh, can we please stop making this weird equivalency between the behavior of children and adults? Nobody is denying that there are inconsiderate adults in most workplaces. But that adult is there to perform a function, and can be dismissed/terminated if he or she becomes too disruptive or stops performing that…

The woman in this article had hired a sitter.