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Show your receipts here. You are making a ton of unsubstantiated claims. Show where these agencies are actually displaying relative safety information and making those claims. Not Tesla, the actual agencies.

You know this is a criticism of their marketing and not the overall safety of the car, right? Well, that and a criticism of being defiant when it comes to regulators, which is an objectively stupid practice. The feds can literally prevent you from selling your only real product. That is going to burn them one day -…

given there are tens of millions of cars on the road that are brand new and aren’t even half as safe.

::warily peers out of hiding place::

My favorite is the comparisons to Amazon, which has had an operating profit since year 4. Tesla...has not.

Neutral. Workhorse will save Lordstown, just like Elio saved Shreveport.

Ford UK is considered a British brand.

Many Brits consider Ford to pretty much be a home-team brand.

Well - I am a boomer so full disclosure here - to me on a lot of cars black wheels look like galoshes on a ballerina.

Detroit has elected themselves some pretty crappy mayors, but I’d say the governor is far more important, especially since one of Detroit’s major issues is the people have fled to the suburbs (while still relying on the city for amenities). Ideally in that case, the state should be pouring money back into the city.

damnit

So if the drivetrain moves to the rear does the Camry’s dent move to the front?

God damn I wish I could huff aerosols at my job.

I’m pretty sure lots of other manufacturers come out with new cars on new platforms all the time and also send early production examples to journalists, without anywhere near this trouble. You never hear of anything like this happening with a new Lexus. Even BMW and Mercedes-Benz will typically behave themselves at…

We had one big pebble rattling around the engine splash shield on my wife’s 2016 Camry good grief that thing sounded like something was about to fall off the front end of the car.

oh thats bad. you could probably do that with BB’s. they’d roll around everywhere

The great oompa is watching other news today.

...Did they fire their UX and ergonomics staff 6 months ago and forget to replace them?
This may be the first and only time I’ll probably say this, but that feels worse than a touchscreen...

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