This car has much more vertical space than a “wagon” - you people are still in denial about why wagons died and crossovers took over. Every company would be out of business if we listened to you.

Alright tough guy I suppose you’ve never, ever made a mistake?

Good sir, tell us more about your Phaeton

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Lol, no, it wouldn’t come close to competing with the S-Class Coupe as it currently sits. It would need to step up several levels in a few departments. For that matter the 6 series doesn’t compete either. S-Class Coupe is in a class of its own for now.

Which is even worse, it’s in a no-man’s land currently. And frankly the newest E and 5 series will basically be as nice or nicer minus a few rear-seat add-ons. No doubt there is a market for this car, but not a big one. And in terms of build quality/materials, it’s still a far cry from the S-Class, which is about…

400 hp is significantly less than the base S-Class powertrain in the US, so....

No, no it’s not. My god. In fact anyone who knows anything about designing audio systems will tell you it’s about the *worst* listening environment possible.

First of all, you’re wrong about the gearboxes, that’s just math, not sure how so many of you are still so misinformed about this. Second, this is not a listening room in your house. Car interiors do need more speakers to effectively place the sound, especially given the high level of ambient noise. To compare the…

Hey idiot, all cars release those gasses, you’re acting as if we have an option to eliminate it entirely. Btw, they’re often naturally present in some proportion anyway. You sound like an insane person, equating diesel emitions to death.

The fuck...? You must live on a college campus.

Yes, all you idiots will keep shouting this all the way to this car’s grave, which seemingly is coming very soon.

I think you’re missing the point. Not everyone masturbates to the idea of driving an underpowered car. Just because you want to drive slowly, doesn’t mean that some (and by some, I mean many, many people who would otherwise buy one) are wrong about asking for more power. At this rate it will die because all the…

Because most of the people buying it are buying into a lifestyle, they aren’t actually interested in owning an interesting car. They’re the same people on here that insist talking about fuel economy and wind-up windows makes them “enthusiasts” while people who own actual enthusiast vehicles are all just assholes and…

I think you need to go look at how Bentley builds interiors.

Really? It blows your mind that a 6.2 liter supercharged V8 is making 707 hp?

This weird, stupid myth that any car built after, say, 1970 loses “xyz” power per year has to die. And yet it’s parroted on this site like a scientific fact.

Man, if only you poor fools got this mad when your chosen political hacks also wielded cronyism in their favor.

Not sure if serious. The weight difference is minimal, and the running gear is better on the 35. Making a car less powerful does not make it better.

Most people who actually buy cars disagree. Including myself. What the fuck is the problem with having *more* access to information.