Pretty much agree: yeah, what she said is indefensibly stupid (and/or downright MEAN, considering Aly’s her teammate), but regarding all the ‘22 isn’t a kid!’ stuff - is that standard the same for gymnasts? I mean, they start out as little kids, then they’re pretty much sequestered and trained and watched like hawks…

OMWow, you did not just #NotAllWhiteFeminists this thread.

Serioiusly! Like, ‘wait what now? I must have misheard you.’
I mean, that’s not even a *bad argument* - it’s a bananatown word party.

whoa, whoa! let’s not bring the yeti community into this.

Right? I totally cracked up at her aside about the ridiculousness of conflating the two: “(pretty sure it wasn’t all the rape victims in Salem getting together to burn the mayor)“

well said. (See also: gay guys grabbing and groping women in public - because it’s just a joke! Because they’re gay, duh! So it’s not as if violating a woman’s bodily autonomy is any sort of harassment! They don’t want to fuck her, so it’s totally cool to honk her boobs or grab her ass for yuks! Sigh.)

(I can’t speak for the poster, but, fwiw, I assumed it was sarcastic and starred it ‘cause it made me smirk.)

Yeah, but you know he would be like, ‘It’s not so bad, boys and girls! Let’s roll up our sleeves and have some fun fixing things!”
I’m just glad he existed ever, but still sad he’s not around.

ugh. please make that a joke, not a statement of fact. TIA

He’s been dead a while and people have occasionally tried to dig up dirt on him, usually in a jokey wouldn’t-it-be-funny-if way. The only stories that come to light are even MORE ANECDOTES about how awesome he was.

WE NEED HIM.

John Darnielle. Greg Proops. Werner he’s-flawed-but-I’m-cool-with-how Herzog. Done. If they turn out to be Bad Human Beings, I may not survive.

Ooh, nice catch. The fallout from this is unbelievably bad. And, yet, somehow, it’s still getting spun as a problem for *women.* . If that’s not misandry, I don’t know what is!

That’ll learn us. We’ll be safe from harrassment, alright - IN OUR GRAVES.

ha! Thank you for that gem!

Then you’ve never *really* been in love, and felt heartache.

Jesus, Jason Momoa, indeed. ::fans self::
I just looked and discovered (was reminded?) that last year’s winner was Adam Levine[?!], though, so they’re clearly not using the word “sexy” as it’s used in common parlance. I mean, there are SO MANY incredibly attractive men out there that I think the staff is just having…

Are you really asking that question, or are you just stating the obvious in question form? I’m pretty sure we all know the answer.

mmmm Gael Garcia Bernal...

I want to second this, wholeheartedly, but also: *did* we? We knew we felt shitty, but did we know it was shitty? I’ve been fairly horrified to look back at events that happened over the past 20 years or so, and realize oh fuck - that was *rape,* not a bad night out or a goddamn ‘grey area.’  Ditto attempted rape and…