Lol I just made up Big Farma as I typed that...made me giggle.  Farmers are soooo not what people think. Good people, and veeeeery savvy at milking the gov-mint

is it possible that I do good things for the earth when I’m not camping?  Is it possible that the carbon footprint of the hotel industry is FAR worse than the carbon footprint of the camping enthusiasts?  Perhaps develop a little context.

the newest F150's do way better on payload than the pre-aluminum bodies, but still and all well more than half of the F150's out there have 1500# payload or less - and once the family is in the truck, they’re lucky to have 7-800 available for tongue weight, putting MOST of those trucks well past the margin of safety…

boy do you ever....with a diesel 6.7 those 3/4 F250's have SQUAT for payload, and the squat is obvious.

I have kids, and I care about the planet. Like I said, you have no idea what I do or don’t do ‘for the planet’, yet you make shitty comments off of some sort of stereotyping assumption of who I am and what I do. Dude, that’s just tacky and pretty ineffective debate technique.  We all enjoy playing forum troll from…

I’d enjoy playing with the Pro Trailer Backup Assist and the neato camera array system - but I sure wouldn’t spend extra for it.  I’ll say though, the backup camera on a big dash screen is THE BOMB for hitching up and lining up the hitch ball.

Big Farma is as corrupt and teat-sucking as Big Pharma...the narrative is often biased.  I live in corn country, not that far from Chicago....and not far enough. Dirty, taxed to death, crap roads, corrupt politicians, violence, decay, debt to the moon, and the recipient of a very disproportionate amount of…

that diesel is a beast, but man, the juice ain’t worth the squeeze unless you’re hammering it every day out of necessity.  the gasser is just fine.

I tow currently with an Expedition EL - 2017 Ecoboost. beats the snot out of my previous 2010 F150 5.4 in power, braking, comfort, and towing specs. Tows all the camper I need right now with headroom to spare....the F250 rent was just too damn high. I just have to fight the urge to buy a bigger camper (and the…

lol...just good ol troll-vs-troll action

we build cities in deserts and wonder why Lake Mead is dry....ya, we’re screwed.  Texans ain’t riding no trains

last I checked, y’all like to eat....where do you think your food comes from? Y’all don’t have an economy without the heartland, and we don’t have any customers without the city folk. Yes, the cities have the largest populations...big deal. We’re all one America and we live or die together.

but we tend to forget - what jalopnik cares about is eyeball traffic.   This thread, as obtuse as it is, has succeeded in garnering significant page views.

you’re clearly too young to remember the 80's and the Sport Compact Truck and Sport Truck era....all slammed to the ground, literally eviscerating the entire purpose of the truck’s basic premise. It was HUGE part of car culture.  Fashion comes and goes, whether it’s a truck or a car or a bike.

thinking like that is what made jaws go slack in the last election....us out here in flyover country are no less valuable contributors to society than people in the concrete canyons.

what’s attractive about a Tesla...it’s not self evident. Or any other car?  ewww....you drive a ford/cheby/mopar....i hate fords/chebbys/mopars..... Dude, it’s car culture - like who in their right mind wants a purple car? but there’s always that guy. We buy what we want to drive -

because I’m old, a little fat, and like the large seats so I can manspread in my own vehicle, if I’m being perfectly honest about it.

lol.....your planet?  be gone, young’un.  come back when you’ve growed up a bit...you’re not even smart enough to get the reference.

ya, I wouldn’t go back either....what we have now is nothing short of amazing compared to the dogs from not that long ago.

you know those bumper stickers that say ‘it’s a Jeep thing...you wouldn’t understand”?   This is sort of like that.  Try not to judge others lifestyles...isn’t that what you pinko liberal commies are always bitching about?