There are things she admitted to lying about, and things other people accuse her of lying about. She admits to using her grandfather’s name (which is allowed) and a false birthdate. Other things, like whether her marriage was forced, are disputed by the husband and family who would have forced her into it.

This. Jezebel could easily write an article called “The Demonization of Ayaan Hirsi Ali” that would be equally interesting, if not more so.

Also, didn’t Rasmeah Odeh lie on her immigration forms too? But everyone on the left is fine with letting that go and saying she had her reasons, but no such generosity is extended to Hirsi Ali...

Many people on both sides of the aisle are ill-informed (at best) and believe in absolutes. Their way or the highway, alas.

That’s one instance, yes. She did it knowing it would get attention and get picked up and run as a soundbite by the rightwing, and that the corrections would only be run by the left wing, outside rightwing echo chambers. All she did was a give a soundbite to Islamaphobes, which was bad.

You had me right up til Dawkins. I don’t appreciate his ‘work’ as an outspoken atheist. Most of what he says is so wildly unhelpful that he might as well just focus on his day job. There are places around the world where being atheist is a death sentence. Being abrasive is not helpful for those populations, and…

She’s “good-ish” on like 5 issues and bad to “holy shit these viewpoints would absolutely get you fired at most workplaces” on like everything else.

why does the left need to choose such deeply-flawed heroes all the time?

This. They went after Majiid Nawaz as well. hey literally called him an anti muslim bigot, despite the fact that he is still a practicing muslim and just want to reform it to a more liberal form. There’s a wonderful bit from his radio show on youtube where he takes a call from a muslim who is mad at him for saying…

Yep. I think she’s good on a handful of issues but imperfect to bad on a host of others. And really, really bad at choosing her language.

Slightly OT, but Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s labelling by the SPLC was heartbreaking for me. Anyone familiar with her story would see that her stances on Islam are informed primarily by her incredibly traumatic childhood and young adulthood. The Netherlands and US have failed her badly as refuges, and now she is being used like…

The term used back then was “playing the ghost” - basically, disguising yourself as a supernatural being in order to terrorize your community.

You note that harming animals is brought up in Milo’s past- is there any actual depiction of dogs getting harmed? I’m one of those terrible people that can watch an infant get devoured and not blink twice, but harm a pup and I’m a ball of tears.

This is all I want to know! Perhaps it means I lack nuance, but ambiguous endings drive me nuts.

This is a great comment. I knew about the phenomenon but not that it had a term. Thanks!

That’s very interesting. Come over here and tell me more.

Thank you. Some of the immigrants from Gawker think they’re owed a new online community while simultaneously shitting all over it. FFS. No one cares if you think Housewives articles aren’t good enough for you.

I was feeling welcoming until I read a comment from a refugee demanding more posts about labor and global economics blah blah blah. The comment was on a Kardashian’s recap post. We get it, you find this lowbrow. Like what Jez has to offer or find somewhere else to go, don’t come over to this community like you’re…

“...if they really, truly had thin skins about all this, they would all have quit after a week on the job.”

Maybe a little off topic, but I’d argue that Reddits system is actually better for filtering shitty comments because the option to hide and downvote. Yeah, you have to get out of the grays here, but if someone engages a troll that is ungrayed, it’s harder to get rid of. If Kinja adopted this, it might actually control…

But still: Secretary Clinton and Jezebel felt like a match made in media expediency heaven.