My impression was it's more "OMG, I've never met someone like that for real" rather than "OMG, how freaky!" They know it happens on Earth, it's just outside their personal experience.

It's hard to answer the first bit of that without a lot of spoilers from about 5 books down the line.

If they didn't hit the heart, he won't have enough weight on Ceres to do extra tearing damage as he gets pulled down on the stake.

No, they really skimmed by it in the show, in the book it's explained in more detail. Group owned farms are common on Earth, and group marriages as part of that are certainly not uncommon too. Holden's group parentage with DNA from all his group parents is common enough no one raises an eyebrow about it.

When I first watched the ending, two weeks ago now, I was a bit disappointed tbh. It felt like they'd decided to wrap it up and while it all hung together it was just a bit rushed plot-wise even though it hit a load of emotional character beats really hard.

I think the books write him as young and idealistic in places, and suggest he's young several times, while at the same time writing him as almost world-weary as Miller.

Not happy, but prepared to wait and see wher it goes. Grimm is one of the few shows that pulled off 'let's have a character lose all their memories' for me AND they did it with Juliette who was by far the weakest character. So the story writers proved they can do it, and Bitsie proved she can act as Evil!Juliette, so…

I am not a trauma surgeon so this isn't an informed opinion, plus it's TV injury, but it looked like she was bleeding from the mouth a bit with no froth in the final shot to me. That's a GI tract injury and probably high up you'd think. Frothing would be lungs, low and you wouldn't bleed out of the mouth unless you'd…

Part of the reason Blaine is a successful villain is that he's smart and charming. He needs Ravi and Liv, they need him, so frenemies works for the time being. And we know he'll be back to being an enemy sometime soon - maybe when the cure wears off.

While you're right, they need a mechanism to get Clive and Liv back together. Her explaining why she acted like that and all her visions is probably the best bet…

Cow brains, not sheep.

It will be bloody hard to write a season 3 after it. Nothing is impossible in TV land, especially French TV land but I'd be shocked if there's a season 3.

Victor is still a special case. We know he's not a typical member of the returned. I'm really struggling to not say more about him but I don't want to spoil it for you.

Now there we can absolutely agree. Adele is a party short of a six-pack. Nutty as a fruitcake.

Ok, Toni was about to jump off a bridge… he changed how he committed suicide.

Given the dam breaking and flood, the suicide cult and the bus tragedy, there's probably a whole lot of PTSD-type syndromes wondering around. Coming face-to-face with dead people, whether or not they're someone you have survivor's guilt about, might just drive you over the edge anyway.

I agree. Toni loves his brother, pretty much limitlessly, but that doesn't mean uncritically. He'll look after him but he will relentless strive to make him face up to his crimes and seek atonement for them.

I'm watching in the UK and we're ahead of you. I'll be interested to see your thoughts come the finale in the US.

Camille explicitly says Claire is doing it to herself. I think it's to Lena or Jèrome. It was certainly to someone where it seemed like she'd be telling the truth (at least as she sees it) rather than saying nasty things about her mum.

Agreed, in part.