I couldn’t agree more. The DSG really lets the RS3 down in every way other than launching and no-lift-shifts. The DSG is great for performance numbers, but make for a lackluster driving experience. It’s not as engaging of a manual and not as good of an automatic as a modern ZF. It’s jerky in everything but comfort…

It has four doors...and a trunk...and it can put a seat down & haul 3 people and all of their ski gear to the mountains for a weekend. Sports cars can’t do that. Also, it doesn’t drive like a sports car. Don’t get me wrong, I like mine and it’s damn fast...but I also have a proper sports car and the RS3 doesn’t offer…

Do you really think that a C8 Corvette is comparable with an AWD sedan? You may as well throw an F150 Raptor in to that group.

...but what else does what this does? It’s a four-door AWD sedan with a comfortable ride and tons of performance. The CT4 Blackwing and M2 are certainly better driving sedans, but they don’t offer AWD and the M2 is a 2-door with unusable back seats. If I were purely buying based on performance, I’d look elsewhere as…

Chevrolet SS. 400+ 6.2L V8, RWD, manual transmission, understated styling, relatively comfortable, decent handling, big trunk - what more could we ask for?

How about they kill off the shiny black plastic interiors next? Sure, it’s cheap and looks nice on pianos, but they are dust, scratch, and fingerprint magnets on car interiors. They can do better.

This is the correct answer...these are also faster than anything else on the list.  Should be able to do a C5 Z06 for $30k.

The other massive advantage (that Tesla still has over many competitors) is that the federal tax credit only applies to vehicles that are assembled in the US. It doesn’t knock everyone out, but it does for many of the Korean competitors. Here’s a list.

If reliability and cheap to run isn’t a concern, a Porsche Pamanera GTS can eat up miles in comfort, and are reportedly great to drive. These come with a nice V8, and good low miles examples can be had for $50k all day long...less if you can live with a turbo V6.

Came here to post this.  Leaving satisfied.  

Do you have any idea how important they are?!?

The back of a slow-moving Subaru is the unofficial view of the Colorado canyon road.

Hell yeah! (But let’s be clear, everyone who flies flags from their truck is basically flying the same flag).

Yes, I have one too...it all fits the stereotype. I was talking to a friend about it, and I came to the conclusion that it’s the nerdiest car on the road today.  :)

The manual transmission is now objectively worse than modern automatics in every way. Manual transmission fuel economy is worse, and performance suffers when compared to automatics...and I just don’t care. I still prefer to drive a car with a manual. I’d even rather drive a manual in stop-and-go traffic. I prefer the…

If you absolutely need to be just like everyone else and buy a compromised CUV, why not go used and get the most interesting one to drive?

Too soon to have not aged well?

Any CUV. They are horrible designs from top to bottom because they’re objectively compromised cars. Their high roofline needlessly adds weight in the worst possible place so people can ride high. They don’t offer any off road capabilities, but come with all kinds of ride and driving compromises so they can look tough.…

I’ve always thought that the vertically stacked & offset headlights of the Porsche 917 were some of the coolest and most iconic headlights of all time. Seeing these flashing at you just prior to a 225 MPH overtake on the Mulsanne Straight at the edge of control has to be pretty intimidating (to say the least).

One of the cool things about old 911's is that many have seen quite a bit of use. Cars that have been well use tend to need restoration (or at least some sort of refurbishment). Once that happens, originality goes out the window.