This design failed when Jeep tried it on the 2015 Cherokee and they had to walk it back then too.  Thanks, I’ll just keep enjoying the timeless lines of my E36 M3 (not the pinnacle, but near the top)

This *had* to be something purchased on accident (like people accidentally buying Bronco Sports instead of real Broncos)

Guess what:  idling uses lots of gas and mileage goes way down, so none of the comparisons above are relevant.  That said, these little vans should absolutely be electric.

I agree that for commuting, an automatic (or better yet, an EV) is the only way to go.  But, if you’re just out for a drive, nothing beats a manual.  I missed it so much for the last 7 years...finally have a 3rd pedal again and it’s HEAVEN.

Sounds like what happened in Montana years ago.  Assholes showed up and killed the party.

This should be filed under “Interesting Because it Still Exists, but Unloved When it was New; Still Unloved” IBSEUWNSU, for short.

I get that this is interesting and quirky and all that...and I *did* click to read it...but this is still an extremely shitty vehicle that frankly shouldn’t have lasted this long.  My best friend in HS had one of these and I can confirm it was terrible.

Just call it the Jeep Stellantis 300XT

well-preserved examples of cars that were well-liked make sense...this is not that.  Crack Pipe

I’m ready for the return of the Honda/McLaren collaboration.  I mean, this is basically an NSX from a specs perspective, right?  Maybe the next one could be the Honda Senna and we could merge all these smart engineering teams together?  OK, back to work....

yes, yes it is.  Curb weight and Gross Vehicle Weight Rating are totally different

HOW do they make the Bentayga weigh over 7,000 pounds?  Is it equipped with lead ballast for sound deadening?  It’s not a very large SUV, honestly, so I really can’t understand how it ends up weighing like 1,000 pounds MORE than a Suburban, and 2,000 pounds more than the Genesis?  That’s like hauling a Miata around on…

For this kind of money, just go get the car this was trying so hard to be:  Alfa Romeo 164L (or S).

I feel like Tesla is taking some of the *bad* cues from early Citroën, without realizing/acknowledging there are good reasons that various designs are consistently seen across manufacturers and models. Sometimes differentiation is good because it gets people talking and makes you unique. Sometimes it’s a failure…

This.  With a huge floor, they could have batteries galore and then plug in to top off and a small “generator” under the hood.  No need for super long drive shaft either.  They could be AWD, in fact.  The generator could be configured for biodiesel or propane, too.  Why is this so hard to figure out?  It seems so…

I kind of like it better with the doors and roof still black.  Looks like a Mega Smart Car.  I guess when the wrap starts to peel you can go Harlequin with it.

Isn’t this really just the same thing as Ford vs. Chevy people? It never really makes any sense, but the arguments can go on for days, with no end in sight. There are Tesla fanbois, but also Tesla owners that just own them because they are logical choices for many reasons. I think Elon is strange and I’m not an owner…

Given that there are probably about a dozen of these still running and driving around, I’d say it’s worth the money just to have something super weird.  NP

Who will be the first to do an “overland” minivan from the factory with a warranty? AWD, air suspension with 33" A/T tires, partial hybrid for on-site power generation, roof racks, tons of tech, ready for sleeping. They’d sell like hotcakes