bc faster production AND zero to sixty amirite?

1922 and the 2 programs depicted are effectively porn and baseball. Some things never change.

I again agree with you. But if you ask yourself. “Self, what am I able to do to have any effect on this at all” In the grand scheme we have almost zero chance to save this individual by trying to be more welcoming as a community (and that’s to imply we aren’t welcoming or that the entire culture is generally bad,…

You’re implying that this individual KNEW that his idea was stupid. I don’t think that’s the case, but ultimately neither of us can do much more than assume.

To be clear, I’m not “calling out the community” or even saying that this is the fault of the community. But I DO think this is a sound opportunity to reflect on…

I so completely agree. Here’s the counterpoint though. In this country RIGHT NOW, there are people unwilling to speak to each other about things happening around them. So how do we break that cycle? I know that’s maybe more heavy duty than just as it relates to car culture but look... we’re ALL doing what we do for…

The slewest of slewfoot. Total garbage. However... consider that Tom Wilson probably can’t be the reason yinz lose the series. But yeah... ugh.

Right... this logic isn’t wrong. But you’re missing the point. This person didn’t know this was stupid. HOW do we get him to the point where he’s aware enough to realize he’s going to die? I’m not trying to say with ANY authority that the car community is that stop gap, I’m simply ASKING if it COULD be in some…

Yeah... it sucks. In aviation we call it error chain. Where was the mistake made that led to the next and to the next until the accident happens that has an ultimate result. For this guy... it may have been something well and before the forums or whatever... but it’s still worth reflection imo.

Nothing really. I’ll make IC pipes and exhausts and stuff... or weld up something on the mower etc. But welding a cage puts you in a lot of odd welding positions that I just don’t have the skills for. PLUS... it’s easier for me to go to a person who builds cages and just knows the physics and the regs.

Right man, but this guy DIDN’T KNOW that he was ACTUALLY in a death machine.

I’m not in ANY WAY saying “moar hugs”. I’m not intending to imply it, I’m not attempting to say this idea should’ve been coddled. Nothing like that. The way this entire thing was executed is completely idiotic. My POINT is... we as a community need to understand HOW to better deliver that message. You calling someone…

Ugh... tell me about it lol.

That’s like a YEARS supply of gasoline!

You have some valid points, but I think if you intend to make that argument then you may as well say fuck his family (his significant other at least) for choosing to be with him no?

I guess my point would be... if we’re going to call this guy an idiot (and maybe I don’t disagree) how far down the line do we go? Is his…

Manny I got a bunch of these comments, but in my eyes... I’m trying to look at this as a chicken or egg type scenario. Were those GTFO comments CAUSED because he had been shunned by his community, or did his community shun him because of those comments.

If you’re a car person and you come up with what you think is an…

Crowbar I know man... we get it on our boards too. I’m just saying, sometimes people need to be taught how to use their resources.

They end up doing that because they’ve been led to believe that these are the things that this culture finds desirable. If you’re given an opportunity to intervene and help guide their creativity... we all end up with less ruined Subarus.

That is a fair point... I would say my main point lies in a chicken or egg conundrum. (also I agree with your three comment thread here... WHOLEheartedly... especially on the politics) What I would like to get across is... did he reject those comments BECAUSE he’s an idiot, or were people not kind to him when he…

Yeah I saw. I’m not implying I have answers... I’m adding food for thought.

Also agree. However... ignoring “haters” is a defense mechanism. Ignoring people trying to help you is stupid. But you need to be able to effectively deliver your message.