I mean lets not get micro... the physics of the whole thing are the problem. It also sounds like he lost control. There are lots of problems.

I think your point is also my point. I’m not insinuating that people DIDN’T try and reach out... my question is about HOW id people try and reach out. I of course know that I’m wrong... but I just believe that this dude at some point was like... “I’m going to do this, and everyone will think it’s rad” and then when…

Thank you, and also my mom IS a nice lady!

Oh of course... but I think there are obvious lessons to take away from tragedy as well as some more nuanced lessons that we can all pause and reflect on.

100% Agreed... my question is did his comments CAUSE people to walk away and shun, or did the shunning CAUSE his comments.

I mean EVERYTHING is stupid...
I have to assume that this persons idea was to make a stripped out lightweight civic platformed racer. That isn’t stupid in and of itself... the way it was implemented wasn’t ideal though.

My incling is that it was less that he didn’t want to hear the negative comments and more that all he was getting were negative comments rather than the type of CORRECTIVE positive comments. If your kid does something completely idiotic and you just berate them for it... have fun for the next 20 years of your life.…

I suspect he was trying to embrace the hate... it really screams of this though (your post is on point I mean).

I think that’s a fair assessment. It just sucks to see people die from things that are well intentioned but so completley idiotic it’s hard to believe no one stopped this guy.

I can get on board with this. I also think the community needs to be more welcoming.

Right like... know your limits. Also physics heh.

No... but it needed redirection. The idea isn’t stupid, the implementation is awful though.

No no no... I’m just saying that this guy is a car lover... and probably died needlessly.

None of it is stupid. This guy went driving about thinking he was in a full caged car. Anyone can see that this is made of soup cans.

And to be clear... I’m not saying they weren’t. I’m just trying to say that all too often, people will scoff at someone’s creativity and that can hurt. It causes people to just go and do idiotic things because they don’t know any better. Like... this is no different than an Aerial Atom... it’s just that the person who…

Super sad but let me say this. THIS is the reason the auto community needs to come together and be LESS judgmental and MORE welcoming. This idea isn’t “stupid” it’s just that this individual didn’t know what he didn’t know. You can’t just “make up” physics... there are reasons cages are designed the way they are.…

I mean... has this individual done anything that isn’t riding coat tails? Has his father? Have any of them? Of course he’s running for office. They have Kennedy’s to take down.

David Tracy is the only one talking sense here but frankly I’m appalled at all of these choices from you lot.

I’m not a leafs fan but it isn’t leaves. They’re named after an old WWI (?) regiment. The Maple Leaf Regiment.

Not that this matters about my thoughts on Kanye, but I think that’s a super big deal. That said, I went to look up such signs and I couldn’t find a reference that seemed to indicate this was true. Not disagreeing, but wondering how I can confirm?