I’m firmly in the “new car smell is fucking awful” camp. Unless the new car in question is a Rolls, it's going to smell like off-gassing plasticisers.

Nothing worse than stinky VAG....

I would hope a brand new car (or even a few months old) wouldn’t be in that kind of shape. But people never cease to amaze me in their disgusting ingenuity. 

Of course we are, that’s what makes us so awesome. Given how opinionated we all are, and how RIGHT all of our opinions are (just ask us), how could we not all be 13 year old boys? Also... eBussy.  LOL

Everyone, I want to encourage you to take this moment, and prove to everyone in the automotive community that Jalopnik readers aren’t a bunch of 7th graders.

the worst are those people who get those “12000K” HID kits. WTF are you doing having purple headlights? 

in the damn article he says WHY you aren’t really a good judge of whether you can “see better.” You’re just doing that knee-jerk “I don’t want to admit I was wrong so I’ll find whatever boneheaded justification I can to pretend I’m right.”

I’ve tried LEDs and HIDs in halogen projectors, and no, they’re not always better. I didn’t go extremely high end with either, but the beam pattern below the cut off was weaker, and didn’t light up evenly. Stern said above that it’s basically a crap shoot, with most cases not being as even or properly dispersed as a…

And once again, the internet ignores the expert and makes its own opinion.

To me people who retrofit LED headlights on older cars says to me, “I want a newer car but can’t afford a new one so I going to blind everyone else with my douche bag headlights.”

I would try and argue with you but you made such a ridiculous comment its pointless. An Veloster and S class are from different worlds.

I have not driven a Model 3 but I have driven a Model S and ridden in an X and I can say their ride quality wasn’t exceptionally better than many other vehicles from non-luxury name plates.
Fit and finish are measures of luxury which Tesla (regardless of model) simply don’t have yet. If you suggest they do, you have…

No argument that Teslas drive great. That’s the biggest part of their appeal, at least to me. But if I’m paying $50k for a compact sedan or $80-100k for a midsize-to-large sedan then I want it to feel that way inside. I suppose it comes down to personal taste, but at some point “minimalist” becomes “downmarket” to me.

Have you ever sat in the current S-Class? Interior material quality (wood, leather, plastics, switchgear, etc.) is as far from an Accent as the Four Seasons is from a Motel 6. And the 3's interior is definitely more Accent than S-Class.

Agreed. Teslas drive great (though ride quality can be flinty), but interiors are not up to level of the Germans or Lexus. Model 3 in particular is no nicer than a typical GM vehicle.

I’ve actually driven a Model S 100D and a dual motor Model 3, plus I’ve worked on about a dozen others. They are very nice and fun/different to drive, but when I’m in them I don’t feel like it’s a luxury car. I’ve also worked on cars for 28+ years so I’ve been in just about everything and driven most. :)

they just put a big ass screen right in the middle: “people will eat it anyways” type of thinking...

Fit, finish and materials are what usually differentiate a luxury marque these days. Mazda 3's are quiet and ride nicely.
The Tesla is okay for materials, while not being great, but their fit, finish and overall workmanship is bested by most econo-brands.

Sit in the interiors and compare— Audi is gorgeous, Benz is great materials, great switchgear...

I don’t really consider Tesla luxury at all, even if they are expensive. Many economy cars today have many of, if not more features than some luxury cars, but it’s the fit, finish, design, and materials used that stand out most to me. While I find BMW interiors to be very bland, material choice is very nice and they…