Agreed with all that. New $25k-$29k cars are an amazing deal for what you get relative to the new cars of 10-15 years ago.

That said, although the Soul is useful, roomy, practical and funky I couldn’t recommend any Kia/Hyundai to anyone right now - both for the insane number and variety of prematurely failed 2009-2021…

It’s remarkable how far we’ve come in 20 years - the Bolt, the cheapest EV on this list - starts around $26k, has 200hp and does 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds *and* has 250 miles of range. And it’s assembled in the US in a union plant.

Right up until you don’t.

Except that sales have been dropping and inventory has been going up since December.

Once again, the utterly hateful, remarkably dumb human dumpster fire that is Elon Musk.

Well, yeah. But interest rates have basically doubled, so the easy loan money is gone. Yet - as this article notes - prices haven’t come down.

We have an ‘18 TourX, a ‘19 Bolt and a 2005 dodge ram 3/4 ton diesel pickup, all paid off. All of them bought new for a good price well under MSRP, and do exactly what we need them to do, and a new version of the same spec wagon or truck would be crazy expensive in this market, so unless something gets totaled (god…

Now *that* is some pro-level sarcasm. Nicely done.

That guy who suggested the Ridgeline - and specifically, the idea that the Tacoma is more fuel efficient - is full of crap. The Ridgeline is a far better vehicle for just about everything people do from day to day, with the two exceptions of 5,001 - 6400 lb towing and serious off roading. The Ridgeline actually has…

So, you really have no idea what you’re talking about. Got it.

Goddamn, dude. Do you embarrass yourself like this in public regularly, or is today special? Holy shit.

Have fun talking to yourself. And maybe use that time to consider the difference between a unit body and an exoskeleton, and all of Elon’s other lies…

Jeezus, I hope you stretched before that reach and didn’t hurt yourself.

That means my old 3/4 ton diesel truck gets infinite miles per KW of electricity, what a meaningful statement!

Absolutely spectacular BS, my dude. You get the Golden Shovel award for today.

No, pretty frequently they don’t “actually deliver”, on matters both big and small.

The Cyber Truck will be a conventional unit body pickup, not the highly hyped exoskeleton structure, as promised.

Loads of people paid up to $15,000 for “Full Self Driving” that does not work and may well never work.

The long promised,…

Just because crank windows were available doesn’t mean anyone actually bought them. Especially not retail consumers.

Chevy Bolts are absolutely killer applications for that, starting at $27k with 250 miles of range and 200hp. That has been our usage - daily driver, doing everything but the road trips - for the last 4 years and it’s been great. My larger gas car only did 2,000 miles in the last 12 months as a result. 

Just about no new car buyer wants hand crank windows. The ‘17 Sonic base sedan the dealership tricked my elderly parents into had been sitting on the lot forever. Manual windows are sales floor poison on the vast majority of cars.

What gas mileage do they get?

FWIW, other arms of GM handled this issue better. My client ordered a C8 corvette in 2019 for 2020 delivery, GM couldn’t build enough of them in 2020 to satisfy orders, his was converted to a 2021 at original 2020 MSRP and he was allowed to re-spec his order with more options (front end electric lift, magnaride…

Liftgate plastic, dash software and glitchy infotainment has nothing to do with the car being an EV, Tesla quality - the non EV parts, anyway - really *is* that bad, and Tesla doesn’t remotely “sweat the details” of many of those non EV parts. Not to mention that Tesla has pretty consistently missed it’s announced new …

Personally, I’m looking forward to the failure of subscription based auto features. No monthly fees for my heated seats or cruise control, please.

Ex NYC worker here - and someone who needed to commute into lower manhattan every day by motorcycle. This is great! As someone who drove a company van in NYC for work, illegally stopped and parked vehicles were a hassle and a time wasting headache for me and everyone else, and there was no way the NYPD could ticket…